Tshinga Dube in hot soup

HARARE - War Veterans minister Tshinga Dube is in deep trouble for throwing his weight behind former liberation war fighters who are putting pressure on President Robert Mugabe to name his successor in order to stop the infighting in Zanu PF.

A liberation war icon who fought on the Zapu’s Zipra side during the war, Dube set the cat among the pigeons by publicly backing the boisterous ex-combatants on the hot Zanu PF succession conundrum on Sunday, courting the wrath of the so-called loyalists who have no qualms with the status quo.

The party itself reacted angrily to Dube’s remarks yesterday, with Zanu PF’s spokesperson, Simon Khaya Moyo, uncharacteristically calling the War Veterans minister out of order.

Khaya Moyo said Dube was wrong to talk about succession, a divisive topic in Zanu PF, and that any party member who goes against the grain on this thorny issue must be judged offside.

“We have a constitution as a party and it lays the guidelines clearly. The president is elected by the people at the congress. As far as we are concerned, we have a president who was elected by the people who is a candidate for next year’s elections and we cannot start discussing that issue when there is no vacancy. If there is anything that should be done, it should be done through party structures, the party constitution is very clear on that,” said Khaya Moyo.

Yesterday, a clique of war veterans aligned to the Generation 40 (G40) faction came guns blazing — urging Zanu PF to punish Dube for his candid remarks.

George Mlala, who has been at odds with the larger section of war veterans that have been feuding with the Zanu PF leader, accused Dube of making comments that contravene the party’s constitution and using the wrong platform to raise his personal views.

“Cde Dube, senior as he is, should understand the Zanu PF constitution better than everyone. The constitution of Zanu PF says the president of the party is elected by no less than six provinces, according to our constitution we will go for congress in 2019.

“There is nowhere in the constitution where it says the president should appoint a successor as Dube is now saying. For him to say the president must name his successor, I do not know where he is getting that.

“My advice to him is that since he sits in Cabinet and the central committee, if he has these observations, the best platform for him is to use the party structures or he goes straight to the central committee,” said Mlala.

The war veteran said instead of healing the rift among the liberation war fighters, Dube had become an agent fomenting confusion among them.

“He is actually causing confusion. He wants to start debate on an issue that does not need any debating. I don’t think this should come from a minister; he must avoid at all costs debating issues of the party in public,” said Mlala.

“He says war veterans are worried about their future, what future? It is not war veterans who are afraid about their future but young people in their 20s and 30s. For him to say war veterans (are concerned) about their future is treasonous; those war veterans whom he says are worried about their future are the same war veterans who said Mugabe behaves like a frog that adjusts to temperature, they are the same who came up with the treasonous document.

“All I can say to him is please leave Cabinet and form your own party made of war veterans and contest the elections,” added Mlala.

Zanu PF is currently sharply divided, with a camp opposed to Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa succeeding Mugabe, the G40 faction, involved in a life-and-death tussle with the VP’s backers, Team Lacoste.

Of late, the name of Defence minister Sidney Sekeramayi, has also been thrown into the hat, although the veteran politician who has consistently served in Mugabe’s Cabinet since independence in 1980 has refused to be drawn into the succession debate.

A large section of the former freedom fighters, who belong to the Zimbabwe National Liberation War Veterans Association (ZNLWVA), has been feuding with Mugabe since they issued a damning communiqué against the ageing Zanu PF leader last year.

The fallout saw ZNLWVA chairperson Christopher Mutsvangwa being fired from both Cabinet and the ruling party last year, while some of the top leaders of the association were also banished from the imploding liberation movement, in addition to being hauled before the courts.

Mutsvangwa’s executive has also publicly said it favours Mnangagwa to succeed Mugabe at both government and party levels.

Yesterday, Dube stuck to his guns, saying what he said was not subversive to warrant him to lose sleep over it.

“Nobody has come to me to complain about what I said although I know that they are talking about it,” he said.

“It’s not subversive to say the president must groom and name a successor,” he added.

Political analysts said while it was refreshing that the former Zimbabwe Defence Industries boss had boldly spoken about an issue considered taboo in Zanu PF, he was likely to be censured given the deep divisions within the liberation movement, which is being devoured by infighting stemming from Mugabe’s failure to name a successor.

University of Zimbabwe political science lecturer Eldred Masunungure,yesterday said Dube had made a bold statement and it was interesting to see how Mugabe would react to that.

“It is clearly unprecedented. It suggests that he does not see himself being dependent on the job he has. It is a taboo subject that is now being brought into the public domain.

“He is releasing the cat among pigeons. This is like a breath of fresh air, that you have someone who can stand up and make pronouncements about the need to discuss the succession issue.

“We know that factionalism in Zanu PF is triggered by that issue, I don’t know how the prince will take it but many in Zanu PF are celebrating. What is now left to see is whether he is going to be punished or not,” Masunungure told the Daily News.

Speaking to journalists in Bulawayo at the weekend, Dube said while the former liberation war fighters were happy with Mugabe’s leadership and would want him to win next year’s elections, they cannot pretend as if there can never be a future without him.

“Sometimes people don’t understand them (war veterans); for instance when they said they are now looking at the future leadership. Some people think they mean to say they are being disloyal to our president, no not at all.

“We respect our president. He has done so much for this country. He has brought about land to the people who never had land. He has brought education to our nation but they are talking about the future.

“ . . . But we are saying we are very happy with our president we want him to win the next election but eventually he will decide to retire, we don’t know when but when that time comes that’s what the war veterans are saying,” said Dube.

“When they (war veterans) choose some of these people, it’s not because they are tired of our president, no, not at all, they are only misunderstood. There is nothing wrong with aspiring to be a president, if you want to be but it’s people who choose you, you can’t choose yourself.

“There is nothing wrong with talking about the succession. Succession is not a crime to talk about. This happens in every country.

“All the war veterans are saying is he (Mugabe) must groom the next leader, whatever happens, whether he retires or anything happens to him there is somebody we know.

“Otherwise it becomes very difficult for investors to put their money when they don’t know whether there is going to be another (Jean-Bédel) Bokassa (the former Central African Republic president) or Idi Amin (former Ugandan president) coming into Zimbabwe. They want to know who is coming; who is the next person so that when they put their money they know it’s safe,” he added.

Mugabe has refused to name a successor, arguing that it is Zanu PF that must decide through a congress when the time comes.

Comments (18)

The seemingly "cast in stone" constitution that Khaya Moyo is quoting, is it not the same constitution that was violated with amendments to enable chasing out of Joyce Mujuru whose popularity was threatening the incumbent first secretary - you didn't want her anywhere close to the that position? Weren't the Vices supposed to be elected? On realizing that Mujuru could be elected as a vice, you changed it to make the positions non elected and give all the power to the first secretary to appoint "non threatening" candidates. So, why cant it be violated again and give the first secretary powers to appoint a successor?

Nyathi - 27 June 2017

Balls to Tshinga Dube!!!!

BHUNJURU BHUNJURIA - 27 June 2017

Tshinga Dube is right to fearlessly express his opinion. He is however wrong to suggest that Bob must anoint a successor. That is undemocratic. In any case Bob can only appoint a person with similar characteristics to his. We don't need another Bob, please Tshinga!!!!

Tredgold Zimwara - 27 June 2017

BALLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rest kule - 27 June 2017

I said it that Dube will b in trouble-that issue is non-discussable in zanu pf.We are only waiting for the president to express his anger over Dube's misbehaviour

addmore gudo - 27 June 2017

You are right Cde Dube that makes sense. I personally think he should step aside just today and make way for the future. But I think it doesn't matter whether he appoints anyone or not. We can do it ourselves. This thing about him appointing someone (successor) to me doesn't make sense. Please Zimbabweans lets grow up. Let us believe in ourselves. We have a Zimbabwean dream not him.

Chigala - 27 June 2017

You are right Cde Dube that makes sense. I personally think he should step aside just today and make way for the future. But I think it doesn't matter whether he appoints anyone or not. We can do it ourselves. This thing about him appointing someone (successor) to me doesn't make sense. Please Zimbabweans lets grow up. Let us believe in ourselves. We have a Zimbabwean dream not him.

Chigala - 27 June 2017

You are right Cde Dube that makes sense. I personally think he should step aside just today and make way for the future. But I think it doesn't matter whether he appoints anyone or not. We can do it ourselves. This thing about him appointing someone (successor) to me doesn't make sense. Please Zimbabweans lets grow up. Let us believe in ourselves. We have a Zimbabwean dream not him.

Chigala - 27 June 2017

You are right Cde Dube that makes sense. I personally think he should step aside just today and make way for the future. But I think it doesn't matter whether he appoints anyone or not. We can do it ourselves. This thing about him appointing someone (successor) to me doesn't make sense. Please Zimbabweans lets grow up. Let us believe in ourselves. We have a Zimbabwean dream not him.

Chigala - 27 June 2017

Which is which the president is elected by the people when there is a vacancy or the incumbent president grooms a successor by appointment? You cant have it both ways Brigadier Dube et al. So Bob grooms a successor and for some reason or the other there is a free and fair election & that person is rejected by the electorate (not the zanu mafia), who will groom the next president when there is no zanu president in post? Any healthy party should have a whole team of potential successors and not just a person primed to take over the mantle like a dictatorship or monarchy.

Lt General - 27 June 2017

Lets learn to respect constitutions. The man is just a better COWARD in that he is indirectly stiring debate on leadership change. most ZPF guys want change of leadership but are scared to mention anything along those lines in public.

Hodha hodha - 27 June 2017

I will credit Tshinga for his polite way of telling Mugabe he has overstayed in that position without giving other eligible Zimbabweans a chance to show their suitability to be elected president when he departs. By now we could be having a clear successor to Mugabe from any corner of the country had he not been employing his evil tactics of crushing every serious prospective candidate. Mugabe is afraid of going alone so he want to make sure when he dies there is ensueing chaos resulting in many joining him. I am afraid six feet underground he may be disappointed when a successor who is not of his choice unites people and reclaim Zimbabwe`s position on the world stage. Watch my words before this year ends.

Masamba Akareyo - Tanganda - 27 June 2017

Ah! what should one expect from people like Mlala? Talking of the future without Mugabe is treasonous according to Mlala a person of no fixed abode.He conveniently forgets that in 2014 Mugabe was declared the sole centre of power in Zanu pf,therefore Tshinga is correct to suggest that he should groom a successor.Is it not the same Mlala who sang hystirically in the 2014 congress and gave Mugabe the powers to appoint Politburo members instead of being elected to those positions in an elective national conference?

general spinola - 27 June 2017

i think dube has been sent to endear war veterans back into the fold for purposes of the upcoming elections. this is the only issue that thewar vets have burning on their hearts and the only way to get them back is by seemingly having it being discussed in the party. they are just introducing it to entice the war vets period.

kelly - 28 June 2017

What hot soup are you talking about? Trying to your paper of course.

Jonso - 28 June 2017

he was right to suggest that Mugabe must choose a successor in the sense that all powers are centralised around Mugabe. this therefore makes sense that he should "anoint" a successor

zimbabwean - 28 June 2017

Kwese kwese possible successors are kind of groomed. You don't have to "name" them but just create a culture that makes you easily replacable, chete. Kwete zvaMugabe izvi.

selele - 28 June 2017

Dube is the only man left woth balls in the party, at least half of them. In principle Mgabe has already anointed his successor in the name of Dr Fugu. What is still pending is the ripe time for him to announce it. The factional fights are as a result of uncle failing to handover leadership to others. On the on other hand the croc is a dangerous animal to support because he could not stand for his fellows who wanted to give him anointing oil at Tsholotosho declaration. this was despite the fact that the uncle had allowed party members to openly debate the successtion matrix of the party. The very senior person who was supposed to appraise uncle on the developments chose to backbite vana musorobhangu and in the end blackmailing vana Solomon as the master minders. This is how Solo was taken out of the seen. Msobhangu is now very much awakend by the true colors of the croc thus why he woukd rather put his bet on the chameleon Sydza as described by Mussolini. This is because there is no dirty sought to tarnish croc's name that will leave sydza clean because those two morons were used in various but weightedly the same way to eliminate those of different views......Masola

Masola waGapugapu - 29 June 2017

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