Mutasa speaks on family

HARARE - Our Chief Writer Fungi Kwaramba interviewed Former State Security minister Didymus Mutasa about his health, family and regrets at 80 years. Below are the excerpts of the interview.

Q: Cde Mutasa congratulations on your 80th birthday, isn’t it now time for you to retire from politics?

A: Thank you very much. No I don’t think I should retire from anything, I should actually take more responsibilities now more than ever before.

I feel much wiser and quite interestingly concerned about our people’s welfare and any other issues that the country should be concerned about.

I feel for instance that we should be thinking about how our suffering people are going to get to next year when things are this bad.

Q: I see you are spotting a beard these days, why?

A: I am going back to my youth days except that it is whiter while at that time it was nice and black. But I feel this white beard is not bad.

Q: Do you have siblings?

A: No they all passed away and I am left alone, I look after a lot of people including my sisters’ children.

Q: How many children do you have?

A: (muses) I have married quite a number of times and I have quite a number of children. My first wife gave me three children and I think those are the best known. Then I married my present wife Gertrude, we have two children together. I also have Sabina with whom I have one child and Sarudzai with whom I have three boys including the last one who is four years old.

Q: Do you think things should have been done differently after Independence?

A: I am looking back at our constitution. I liked the constitution we had at independence when we had a titular president and a prime minister.

Looking at the present chaos, with our two houses we should have made the Upper House the house of chiefs and let them use that house to discuss issues of concern to the country and they would choose one of their own as President of the country. We missed out on that.

Q: What is your favourite food?

A: I have none. I have left food issues to my wives. They cook what they want and I eat whatever they cook.

Q: What about music?

A: Again I have none really that I feel special about, but there was music that was played by Jim Reeves, he is my favourite musician but you don’t find that music anymore.

Q: They were rumours that you had collapsed and died, do you suffer from any ailment?

A: I am still fit as you can see. People say I have collapsed and I am dead but since I came back from India with my wife my health is good. I can run as fast as my four-year-old boy.

Q: You have friends buried at the Heroes Acre are you attending Heroes day this year?

A: Unfortunately no, I didn’t go to Independence Day celebrations because I don’t feel I have any friends within the current administration who I can mark the day with, if I want I can have my own celebrations with Mai (Joice) Mujuru, Rugare Gumbo, Kudakwashe Bhasikiti and the best place will be in private. I can’t bear a day with fake people.

Q: Are you worried about not being buried at the Heroes Acre?

A: I don’t mind. I have been taken out of the heroes realm but that is not what I am after, I will be very happy to be buried at my roots in Madzangwe with my forefathers, that is my wish.

Q: Where is People First?

A: It is getting off the ground slowly and it is usually difficult when you are starting, but now it is all over the country especially in Matabeleland. So many people are behind us.

Q: Themba Mliswa, your nephew, says Mai Mujuru is scared and holding back the struggle. Is she the best candidate to lead People First?

A: There are no doubts about her, we recently met her and endorsed her as our leader, for quite a number of reasons.

All of us in People First must apologise not only to the people we have misruled but to the entire world, you don’t run a government like we did up to 2014, I mean you break your own constitution into pieces, good heavens, we can’t repeat that, Mai Mujuru would never do that.

Q: How are you surviving outside politics, do you run any business?

A: I don’t have any businesses.

Q: What about the many properties you are said to have like houses in Rusape.

A: The Rusape house they are talking about I bought with my money, they are persecuting me now through (Manicaland province minister) Mandi Chimene. When I bought it they didn’t give me the receipt or title deeds of that house.

Q: But you were the godfather of Rusape, who could dare you when you were still minister?

A: You must have heard such things from very ignorant people, you will be told that this is the only minister to whose house we would go, do they do that to a person they fear. I was never a godfather, I was a man of the people.

Q: Bhasikiti recently took a lady who was following him to the police, do you feel safe here?

A: (pointing) At that corner there, there is always a car parked purposelessly.

Those people are from CIO, wasting meagre resources chasing shadows. They should not station anyone there, I want them to come in and we will give them tea or a hot meal because we are hospitable, but they make people stay in the mountains watching me, why?

Q: So you are being watched?

A: I don’t care; they have been watching me since the sham congress.

Q: Are you not afraid?

A: Not a bit, they can do anything and the moment that happens the world would know.

Comments (17)

When a man falls backwards all he can see is the clear bright sun. Welcome to the ground Mr. Mutasa, where we have always been since 1980 when you and the other took to the high heavens!!

KundaKinde - 3 August 2015

If a person stumbles and fall on the race and stood up and start running again, chances are high that they may complete the race, they might not be first but last and probably not even last. You are proving to be a man Cde...just like Mai Mujuru, you accept your mistakes. Cdes you had left us far too long alone in murkey waters...remember those we left in the bush...they did not die for this

dollarman - 3 August 2015

If a person stumbles and fall on the race and stood up and start running again, chances are high that they may complete the race, they might not be first but last and probably not even last. You are proving to be a man Cde...just like Mai Mujuru, you accept your mistakes. Cdes you had left us far too long alone in murkey waters...remember those we left in the bush...they did not die for this

dollarman - 3 August 2015

Mr Mutasa is only showing the world that he is not principled. How can he and Mai Mujuru apologize for misruling ? If he has a brain , why did it take him three decades to be kicked out to see the misrule.He must just say he is unhappy to have left the government. Does he hope to get any support from those opposed to ZANUPF that way. The fact of the matter is that he misses ZANUPF rule which he enjoyed very much . Chete ! Chete! His being rejected by the Makoni Chief`s Council after he lost his political clout spoke volumes and hence his continued lamentations after his unexpected political downfall. He must understand farming is business. Why say he does not own any business.?

Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof) - 3 August 2015

Q: How many children do you have? A: (muses) I have married quite a number of times and I have quite a number of children. My first wife gave me three children and I think those are the best known. Then I married my present wife Gertrude, we have two children together. I also have Sabina with whom I have one child and Sarudzai with whom I have three boys including the last one who is four years old. 4 year old boy at 80. Is this guy good at planning. At 91 the boy will be 15, Mugabe better Chatunga wava ne18.

Beraboy - 3 August 2015

While Mutasa you may know a lot of things but they is one thing you really do not know the of people Matebeleleland . These are the people who when they say they like this political party they will stand with it through thick and thin they are not thathekilezi like that dog called mugodoyi which follows every jik and jim these are the people who will not be threatened easily like pikininis you still remember when you were party of gukurahundi in 1985 zanu lost heavily in Matebeleland despite them voting while gukurahundi was milling around polling stations So for you Mutasa to lie here and say people first is popular in Matebeleland is hallucinating . People here do not like anything to do with zanu including Mujuru and Jabulani Sibanda actualy very few people in Matebeleland know Mujuru those who do know her for a wrong reason ,insulting the late father zimbabwe. nothing else . Matebeleland people know exactly what they want that is why they is no political violence in this party of the country only those who are not from this region try to bring violence but they often snubbed .

Diibulaanyika - 3 August 2015

chokwadi tiri kudzidza zvakawanda gore rino. heya munodawo change?

pangaspangas - 3 August 2015

The height of irresponsibility. Siring a son at the age of 76!! Very unfair on the child

Mukanya waSvosve - 4 August 2015

I know of a verse in the book of revelations, a message sent to one of the churches. I know it in Ndebele. "...vuka lapho uwe khona" to me mutasa is taking heed of that message. he kows exactly where he has fallen and is rising from there, with a resolve never to fall back again. liyatsho le bhayibhili ukuthi UNkulunkulu kajatshuliswa yikuwa kolungileyo kodwa yikuphenduka komubi. can I here someone say Amen!

nelson Ndlovu - 4 August 2015

A setback is set up for a step up. Worry not Cde

Chamboko Chewaya - 4 August 2015

Amen !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inkosi ikubusise ngombono wakho ocacile

Diibulaanyika - 4 August 2015

This guy should clarify some non political issues relating to his origins. Is he a Mutasa or a Makoni? He has been running around as a Nyathi which definitely rules out his claim to be a Mutasa as the Mutasa's are Shumba-Tembo. The Makoni elders totally ruled him out as a Nyati, Makoni but clearly accepted that he was son to a Makoni daughter, effecyively making him a muzukuru. He has no any direct or legal claim to the Mutasa's except by name. How he came to use the name Mutasa and the totem Nyati begs clarity. Pachivanhu, his political woes could be linked to his unpacked identity. He could use his stature, influence and experience to research on his identity or if he is very clear about it he can clarify to the public since the issue is already a public topic.

Aggrey Gumisai - 4 August 2015

what a shame to us man! the moment we get money we think of multiple relationships. this is the reason our countries are far backward. no plans for tomorrow. only thinking about small houses kupela. shuwa ini ndanyara kwazvo. very sad to read into this man's life. I wish i didn't know these details.

taurai - 4 August 2015

They say that you are not Mutasa Chaiyo? tell us the truth origin not about firing sperms on any lady in your way based on the number of failed marriages.

Reader - 4 August 2015

Mutasa, you must have been very dull at school. 35 yrs misruling but you couldn't see that? You only realised it when you were kicked out of the gravy train. Even People first does not have solutions for the ailing zimbabwe. I believe in Morgan because he is the only one with tangible promises. When zanu lost in 2008, you were the first to console Mugabe. Now you are apologising for misrule?? You want us to accept all that rubbish?? Time will tell.

piaget - 8 August 2015

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