We don't believe in the Bible: Madzibaba

HARARE - A senior member of Johane Masowe apostolic sect has claimed they do not believe in “a weak man” — Jesus Christ, and disregard the Bible as God’s book.

Responding to Prophetic Healing and Deliverance founder Walter Magaya’s assertion that Vapositori were “marine spirits from the dark kingdom”, Australian-based Madzibaba Tawona who claims to be a bona fide member of Johane Masowe YeChishanu said in a lengthy article published by an online publication, that his religion was called Masowe.

He said the sect had no use for the Bible as the “holy spirit” explained that the book was not a true reflection of God’s word.

Almost confirming Magaya’s sentiments, Tawona dismissed the existence of Jesus Christ saying the name Christianity was never revealed by God.

He said: “We have never needed it. We will never need it! The explanation given by the Holy Spirit was/ is that, the Bible in its form is not the true Word of God.”

Strangely, he however, quotes the Bible extensively in his article.

“As far as they (Christians) are concerned, Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, He is the truth, the light and the way! Never mind any other abominations that were committed in between.

“Does it make sense that Jesus, the core of the Christian Religion, received no revelation about his religion yet unidentified individuals and disciples of disciples like Paul got that revelation?” queried Tawona.

He  also claims that Jesus never received revelations as was the case with other prophets before and after him.

“Moses got revelations. Muhammad got revelations. Why not Jesus? Why does the Bible quote so many Gospels instead of just one from Jesus to avoid contradictions and ambiguities? In the context of the bible, Jesus is a weak man,” said Tawona, exuding deep knowledge of the Bible he claims he does not read by quoting from Matthew 15:11, Mark 7:15 and 1 Timothy 4:4”.

Tawona went on to say  the ‘‘holy’’ spirit is with them they did not need “to read from written records when we can readily consult and be provided with reliable immediate responses the same way it happened with those to whom the Holy Spirit first visited in the Middle East”.

Madzibaba Tawona’s article however, is laden with inexplicable contradictions where he goes on to claim that their religion does not allow them to be baptised.

Despite dismissing Magaya as someone who does not understand Vapositori, Madzibaba surprisingly concurred with the popular preacher that the religion’s prophets were in the habit of threatening their congregants with their prophecies.

“Indeed, some prophets have made such claims and that is wrong and against the founding doctrine of the Religion that was revealed to the Messenger of God.

“Under the Laws of our Religion, revealed in 1936 as Dare raJakopo (The Court or Constitution of Jacob) that was revealed to the late Madzibaba Edson Chokururama vekuMutedza kwaNgwerume, Murehwa, we are sternly discouraged from using water lilies (hapa), rock pebbles (nhombo), carved reeds (zvipiyaniso zvetsanga), all forms of wooden carvings (zvivezwa zvemihacha or mibhestreji), prayer shrines constructed out of rocks and stones (kirawa), give false or intimidating prophesies or wear garments of different colours from white or garments with decorations of any kind.

“We are not supposed to be baptised as yet. I repeat, no baptism as yet, because the Lord has not yet revealed the River, the Baptist and the prayers required for that to happen.

“We only wait patiently and prayerfully for instructions, we don’t name ourselves or choose rivers. The Lord does. Doing anything without instruction from Him is tantamount to worshipping deities and the Lord detests that!”

He praised Magaya for raising issues around threats and use of earthly decorations around prayer shrines.

“I agree that Mr Magaya has a very valid point and thanks for raising it because that has allowed me time to sit down and clarify on the matter.”

He however, dismissed Magaya’s knowledge of Johane Masowe yeChishanu as “based on superficial dogma”.

“I ask him to research more about Dare raJakopo to find more value about the dignity of this beautiful Religion”.

He all but confirmed Magaya’s assertion that the white garment apostolic sects are not Christian organisations saying the scriptures do not mention the Christian religion which means it was not revealed by God.

“Christians believe the book was revealed by God period! Dear reader, remember I explained about the revelations to Baba Sixpence Shonhiwa who was renamed Johane Masowe by God?

“In the entire Masowe YeChishanu Religion, the name Johane Masowe is mentioned, sung and interpreted. Similarly, to quote from the Bible, when the Lord chose Abram the son of Terah to be his main servant to carry his prayers for mankind, he renamed him Abraham. There was no book for Abraham to read.

“There were no scriptures, only The Holy Spirit through Angels Gabriel and Michael..,” he added.

Interestingly, the  Masowe member accuses Christians of the New Testament of elevating Jesus to the position of God himself.

He argued that Christians’ belief in the Holy Trinity of the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit is wrong.

“The church today puts Jesus above The Almighty. All their prayers are dedicated to Jesus yet Jesus is the Son of the Creator. Jesus admits in John 5:30 that by Himself He could do nothing yet the church make Him mightier than His Father”.

The publication titled, Marine Spirits, Mweya Yemumvura: Teaching by Prophet W Magaya,  invited  backlash from Apostolic Christian Council of Zimbabwe boss Johaness Ndanga who alleged that Magaya used the head of a vulture to perform miracles.


Comments (15)

Avo ndeve dare , hongu johane masowe wechishanu does not read the bible because the holy spirit knows the whole bible by head as it was present those happenings in the bible and the holy spirit knows how to give guidance to men. jesus christ is the son of the living god at masowe echishanu there are many songs praising him and his many wonderful works and teachings.the holy spirit explains in great detail the escape from Egypt by the isralites,the death and rise of jesus, the valour of Daniel, the resilience of misheck, shadreck and abdenico vapositora vechishanu pray in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit Amen.

muposta - 16 February 2015

thus true my brother Johane Masowe believe in Jesus Christ hatienda kudenga pasina mwana komana Tichaona ndiani ko?chenjerai varume anoramba sei mwana Yeso ndivo vakauraya chipo mhiri yegungwa ivavo isu kuno chipo chakauya chakavanzwa muna Johane .huyayi mufunde chishanu varume regai kutaura zvamusingazive

thendai - 16 February 2015

thus true my brother Johane Masowe believe in Jesus Christ hatienda kudenga pasina mwana komana Tichaona ndiani ko?chenjerai varume anoramba sei mwana Yeso ndivo vakauraya chipo mhiri yegungwa ivavo isu kuno chipo chakauya chakavanzwa muna Johane .huyayi mufunde chishanu varume regai kutaura zvamusingazive

thendai - 16 February 2015

Those who follow the Apostolic Sects are naive and insane. The same Holy Spirit they say the listen to and obey and get instructions and revelations is the same that inspired the writers of the Bible (2 Timothy 3: 16,17) and even their fellow Apostle Peter claims the same (2 Peter 1:21). So whose Apostles are they? It is amazing to note the evidence that the Bible is God's Word and for us to take time to try and convince people who call themselves Apostles that the Bible is God's Word is the greatest irony I have ever encountered. The truth is that the Devil does not want people to see the light in the Bible (Psalms 119:105; Psalm 36:9). Indeed where there is no Bible there is no light and where there is no light there is darkness. So the Apostles are promoting darkness! Who is this Johan Masowe? Well just a dreamer who was used by the Devil to mislead people and let people believe in superstition as if it is the Holy Spirit works. Never! But wait! Am I saying PHD is the best? No, for me they are the same. GUNGUO KUSEKA ZIZI MUROMO UCHINGE DEMO!

charles charingeno - 16 February 2015

n'anga ndodzisingaverengi bible chete the rest is news. avo ndivana tsika mutanda period

chahu - 16 February 2015

Tawona, surely you are going straight to hell if you don't accept Jesus Christ as lord of your life according to Romans 10:9-10. Jesus Christ is God, not a prophet and can't be compared to those you mentioned who had to receive revelations. Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2) proceeds from the Father and author of the Bible. No one can receive the Holy Spirit without accepting Jesus Christ. Tawona the spirit you received is a demonic spirit, anti Christ because the Holy Spirit bears witness to Jesus Christ and only came to the world to lead and guide you after Jesus had gone back to heaven. Christianity is not a religion, the Bible is your instruction manual for a glorious life. Read Proverbs 4:20-23 before heralding again your ignorance of God next time. Stop deceiving people; Johane Masowe Apostolic faith is a cult practice, devil on the rampage

Edgar - 16 February 2015

n'anga ndodzisingaverengi bible chete the rest is news. avo ndivana tsika mutanda period

chahu - 16 February 2015

charles charingeno it is not true that those who wrote the bible were inspired by the Holy Spirit, it is the Kings of England who wrote the bible that is why you see them in versions. Do you know of any disciples who wrote the bible. When the bible says he book of Peter it does not mean Peter wrote anything but that he spoke through the Holy Spirit and someone tried to reproduce what he said by writing it down. But the Holy Spirit is not a person what it said to Elijah it will say it again through the right person today, so no need for the bible there.

KEKEKE_BOOM - 17 February 2015

Varume ndikudzei chimwe chinhu chinoita kunge chakavanzika asi chisina, mweya mutswene vakaburuka muzimbabwe 1931, munhu akasvikirwa nemweya mutswene iye ye ndiye akataura akati ndatumwa kwamuri vanhu vemu Africa kuti namatai muzita rababa neremwana komana neremweya mutswene Amen, kuseri kweamen ikoko kune kupona uye kune kusunungurwa kwenyu imi vanhu vemuafrica, asi musanamata nemurungu uye musabata zvinyorwa zvavo, nekuti dzinza ravo ndorakauraya jesu mwanakomana vamwari, uye pakumutonga kwavakamuita vachimupomera mhosva yakanga asina vaitoshandisa zvakare bible iroro, uye inini ndinozoti mutumwa kana achinge atumwa neshoko kubva kudenga achinzi enda unoudza Africa uchiti nekuti, ko bible anoridii iye mashoko yakatumwa nayo anayo? Uye iro bible rakabva kudenga here kana kuti rakanyorwa nevanhu ? Jesu pakauya kubva kudenga akaburuka naro here kana kuti akatorivana rapo nechekare ? Uye machechi ese yakavana aripo, pane church yakapinda here yatingati chechi yaipinda jesu inonzi yakati, sei asina kumbobvira apinda chechi ipi zvayo, varume zivai jesu pakumunamata kwete pakumuraya? Uye chii chinotanga mazwi nekunyora ? Johane masowe yechishanu inonamata izwi riya rakataura na moses richiti kanda tswimbo igopinduka kuita nyoka, rakataura pagwenzi richipfuta moto, izwi rakataura pajorodhani mushure jesu ababatidzwa, saka izwi iroro harina kufa riripo, mukaona kuti kana muchi namata musingarinzwi kureva kuti shuwa shuwa bible munoto riverenga nekuti munenge muchinamata zvisirizvo, vhangeri ndinaro asi ndombomirira pano nhasi, ,

madzibaba - 16 October 2015

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