Magaya blasts Vapositori

HARARE - A storm is brewing between Prophetic Healing and Deliverance (PHD) Ministries founder Walter Magaya and the country’s Apostolic churches after the celebrity preacher controversially described the latter as “marine spirits from the dark kingdom”.

In response, Apostolic Christian Council of Zimbabwe (ACCZ) president,

Archbishop Johannes Ndanga, has retorted by accusing Magaya of being possessed by demons.

In his booklet titled Marine Spirits, Mweya Yemumvura: Teaching by Prophet W Magaya, excerpts of which are broadcast on his Yadah TV channel, the popular preacher claimed that Vapositori, as they are popularly known, are derived from spirits that reside in the marine kingdom and that they do not believe in the Bible.

Magaya also claimed that Apostolic preachers had a propensity to threaten congregants with death.

“It is from these Orion and Leviathan spirits of the marine kingdom where false, non-Bible believing white garment churches (mapositori ekumasowe) are derived,” Magaya said in his booklet.

“It is also unfortunate that many people have been deceived to follow or visit these kinds of shrines (masowe) in an effort to go over their problems, yet to no avail.

“Many people who have visited these non-Bible believing churches have had their problems worsened while others have been permanently hooked to them after receiving various continuous serious threats including death (zviga zverufu netsaona) thereby becoming members,” he added.

Magaya’s controversial remarks have already drawn a sharp rebuke from the ACCZ — which represents at least 700 Apostolic Christian churches in the country.

Ndanga, ACCZ executive president, came out guns blazing yesterday, accusing Magaya of launching “unrestrained and unprovoked attacks” against them.

Ndanga also provocatively accused Magaya of being possessed by demons.

“He has gone out of bounds. That area is not in his constituency, so he must not provoke us. We have never said that he and TB Joshua are witchdoctors who are also adulterous and are in the business of cheating people and making money in the process,” fumed Ndanga.

TB Joshua is Magaya’s spiritual father.

The angry Ndanga said if Magaya was “a real man of God”, he should have foreseen the Kwekwe stampede that killed at least 11 people and injured dozens others in a stadium in Kwekwe, 213 km west of Harare, in November.

However, at the time of the incident, Magaya said he had foreseen the disaster and had warned authorities who did not take heed of his advice.

The Accz founder further claimed that white garment prophets would not have their churches struck with such calamity without foreseeing it.

“God is much greater than what Magaya thinks as people worship in various ways and no one can master the mind of God.

“Jesus healed the blind using mud. He used water and we never heard of oil. He is a new comer in the Christian religion and cannot tell us how to worship God,” Ndanga said.

In his booklet, Magaya claims that 80 percent of the white garment Apostolic sects do not use the Bible “and for those who use it, they do so for deceptive purposes.”

He warned people against seeking deliverance from such churches as “darkness cannot push away another form of darkness”.

“First of all, the ‘prophet’ goes out to the rivers, lakes, coasts or beaches of oceans, mountains and caves to acquire the supernatural powers usually of the mermaid spirit (mweya wenjuzu) before they start their own church while others are groomed within an existing church (Masowe) to become a prophet,” Magaya said.

He said the marine kingdom was all about water and claimed that it is the reason why the environs of Vapositori’s shrines resembled a marine kingdom.

“In most cases, there are planted reeds, water lilies and other water-related plants on the ‘altar’ (kirawa).

“The plants are regularly watered to maintain a marine environment. On both sides of the ‘altar’ are large calabashes (makate) filled with some small ones by the sides…

“The members undergo regular visits to waterfalls for baptism to cleanse them of ‘bad spirits’ but unknown to them, they will be further dedicated and initiated into the marine kingdom,” Magaya said.

But Ndanga was adamant that the practice was well within the confines of the Christian gospel, saying most orthodox and Pentecostal churches believed in baptism by water.

“Jesus Christ used water to heal. He was baptised by John the Baptist.

The Romans use water just as do Pentecostal churches, yet we know he uses the head of a vulture to prophesy.

“I have had to restrain    several of our prophets who wanted to be given permission to unmask him because we feel it is out of bounds for us,” Ndanga said.

Comments (173)

i have gone to Phd hoping my problems will get better but things got worse for me. Then ndobva ndati regai ndiendewo kumasowe zvangu zvikafa. So munotii pakadai

andyblem - 22 January 2015

Cursed is he who trusts in men. Trust in God and He will take care of you.

tal - 22 January 2015

Magaya watambira kunonyudza manje neuroyi hwako hwekuGhana. Unofumugwa very fast zveBrake fluid nezviOil zvako zvenhema zvaunotengesera vanhu uchijuta!

Ponde - 22 January 2015

vanaMagaya muri vana Mafikizolo pachinamato.Bvunzai nzira dzakare .Mapostori akatanga kare kare 1912 iwe usati wazvarwa.Even sekuru vanga vasati vazvarwa.Wava kuda kufarisa manje.Ziva kwawakakweshwa nhova uchikura iwe.Bira vanhu zvakanaka ikoko uye maprofita mazhinji arikuti une zvaunazvo zvaurikushandisa pakurapa vanhu saka usafarisa.Uchafumurwa manje manje

member - 22 January 2015

Magaya azorasa muswe manje chii chaanotya kumapostori hondo navo . chiporofita ndokwachakatangira munyika ino kusati kwauya maporifita anopfeka masuit one interesting thing n"anag dzemashura hakuchina now vese vakuzviita vaporofita Mweya unobva kuna Mwari not annointed zvakaitwa naTB Joshua wekuromba tichaona magumo avo. nyika ino ngaimuke kwkayedza kare

MADZIBABA DICKSENCE - 22 January 2015

In any true church or fellowship you will only ever hear the name of the Lord Jesus Christ being lifted up. Zimbabwe has got a very big problem. Politicians are worshipped; so called men of God/prophets etc are worshipped. Where is God in all this? This will come at a heavy price. It is called idol worship! Zimbabweans must stop running after a man and turn to God. He is our only hope!

Righteous Justice - 22 January 2015

Munoti nereligiosity kana kumasowe vachiti huya usarende anointing oil,kupentacostal vachiti huya usarende magemenzi?

john andrew na mathew - 22 January 2015

2 Timothy Chapter 3 1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone. 10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11 persecutions, sufferings—what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work

Positive Thinking - 22 January 2015

wakomana vanhu vatenzi maona kuti zvinhu zve bhizimisi nechinamato hazvienderani.mapositori aitasei anonamata zvakachipa uye vanvhu tendai kuna mwari kwete kumunhu.

MADZIMAI - 22 January 2015

same fanana nyoka diki nehombe

hhhhghhhh - 22 January 2015

magaya bhizimisi rake akurityira kuti rava kubhuroka uye ngaasiyane nemapositori.

madzimai - 22 January 2015

Man it was good for the prophet Daniel, said it was good for the one Jeremiah, i tell you it was good for the one Isiah , so it must be for I and I

Observer - 22 January 2015

I'm on neither side, my concern is on those who do not use the bible, don't believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ - can they be called Christians or its a separate religion. We should not attack them, but they should not be called Christians nor should we call them a "church''.

Holi - 22 January 2015

Magaya, Makandiwa, Angels, TB Joshua, Pastor Chris and a whole lot of you muri N'ANGA then Ndanga and the whole crew MIDZIMU unfortunately both ends moguma mo practiser UROYI, sorry kwazvo, sorry kwa sorry

kkkkk - 22 January 2015

wats wrong wit you people. God chooses people t do his work. You might pray and ask God for help but at one point you need someone from God to help. Do you think all those people who where healed didnt pray for themselves before they met prophets. Some where even Heathens but they where healed by a man of God. Cut vapostori some slack please

andyblem - 22 January 2015

Ho-odo ana Magaya. Kusekana kwanamutiro , hunzi namboyi hombiro ane mahobi. Ko iwe ako haumaone? Unoporpfita neiko nhai Magaya? Dotiudzawo? Shambakodzi ingati kugate bambo wee, munomakisa, magaro enyu akasviba kuti tsva-a-a? " Kana nyangadzi yagara panzvimbo tsene-tsvene, vanorava ngavacherechedze..." In short when the devil takes to the pulpit, to preach the gospel of good news, take care folks... he will run away with both bible and pulpit!!!

Shame - 22 January 2015

Pasi nawo mapostori ana madzibaba Ishmael vanga vasingaendese vana kuchikoro,kuhospital,huyai muone mwari mupenyu ku phd ministries kana ku ufic,kwete zvama kirawa zvenjuzi izvi

ome - 22 January 2015

Thank you true man of God for shedding the light on these masowe people cz honestly vanhu vaya vanoroya,u remember murume we ku bleeder for 2 weeks anga asungwa kuma sowe,saka woti ichurch iyoyo?Pasi nema kirawa nemweya yenjuzi,

chido - 22 January 2015

Vakuru vaNdanga vatiresikei pakuti oil iri kutanga naProphet Magaya ndinoona kuti vakuru havana nguva ne Bible.Please ndino kumbirisa vaNdanga vave nenguva nesoko raMwari

handidi - 22 January 2015

@handidi thank you very much for shedding the light for the bible say is any one of you sick?annoint him/her with the annointing oil.There are more than 15 verses which talk about the use of annointing oil.Verengaiwo bible vaNdanga

ome - 22 January 2015

magaya does not own God, neither does he has a fair claim to being a real prophet because jesus, john the babtist and elijah did not take money nor attach salvation to payment of lots of monies in the church as he and his like minded are fond of doing, he should concentrate on his money making gospreneur and stop claiming to possess nor soley own god.

willard sibanda - 22 January 2015

We thank the Lord for His highly anointed servant that He sent to the nation of Zimbabwe and the world at large to deliver those under the yoke of the evil one, heal the sick, prophecy as given by God and to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Ntini - 22 January 2015

Nganga is not fit to comment on the matter he is 120% politician. He doesnt know the bible at all and his understanding of spirituall things is shollow.

Guroo - 22 January 2015

I think he did not mention all the mapositori but those who dont read the Bible because what spirits do they use to pray to God and how do they believe in Jesus, how did they know about him when they don't read the Bible. May be Ndanga can explain.

maita - 22 January 2015

Magaya pane vaaifonera vekumasowe achiti sei murikuita mahara, huyai tibatane tirove mari.Akanetsa panyaya iyi. Vanonamata naye zvizivei mugosvinura. Munzaniso usinei nemasowe. Vachena vanoziva nhau yeMasowe sakani vakatora nguwo netsvimbo zvaJohanne Masowe vachifunga kuti zvimwe mabasa emweya angadzokera kwavari. Asi kwete arimuno muZimbabwe kumasowe

Madzibaba - 22 January 2015

A case of the kettle calling the pot black is what we are witnessing here, Magaya and the Apostolic sect are the same side of a coin. They use different approaches to con people that's all. Fitting smugly into this puzzle are traditional healers as well, they are all the same. It's a good thing they went about town exposing each other for who they truly are, very interesting indeed.

Dr Know - 22 January 2015

zvakafanana zvivanhu izvi.however, of the two demons, i chose mapositori. they don't go to the extend magaya has gone.their influence is kind of localized.manje tsotsi iri mahwani chaiwo. i am taken aback by this Mugove fellow. h finds these kinds of stories news. Image now we are caught in the middle, u open Herald u are bombarded with Mutasa stories. U run to Daily News, are as the sun rises from the East, you tortured with some stupid stories abou Magaya... Kwasara News Day rakangoitawo saChinotimba- a joker

prof - 22 January 2015

Jehovha alone is great and not Ndanga or Magaya.Who knows may muchatotsva mese.Who ever does not believe in the Bible is not of God.THE WORLD WILL PASS BUT GOD'S WORD THE BIBLE WILL REMAIN.PASI NEASINGATENDI MUSHOKO RAJEHOVHA saka chiKristu chako chinobva papi.

NYAMAZ NYAMAZ - 22 January 2015

@observer, old time religion!

zimdread - 22 January 2015

A true mupostori 1. Does not frighten people with death. 2. They read the bible. 3. They dont make people remove their shoes. 4. They allow people to face the direction they want when sitting and also when it rains they are allowed to use their umbrellas. 5. They dont take water plants to their kirawa. 6. vasingachenure mudzimu.

jada - 22 January 2015

It is obvious kuti marine spirits belong to the dark kingdom and being of the darkness it has no power to cast out other evil spirits. the moment one visits these shrines and use miteuro you start having these dreams where you will be swimming in rivers and so on. Thank you Prophet for this wonderful book I will treasure every content in it.

Dorothy - 22 January 2015

it is a pity that all of you cannot see the light. i will give reference to the bible to all those vati Magaya waivepi mapositori akauya kare. i will give refference to the book of Kings. The worship of baal seems to have had no royal approbation in Israel until the time of Elijah's antagonist king Ahab. while many of the king's predecessors are condemned for following the path of Jeroboam in the worship of the golden calves see 1 kings 12 vs 26-30; 1 kings 15 vs 25-26,33-34; 1 kings 16 vs 18-19,25-26. It appears that Ahab was responsible for adopting baal worship as Israel's official religion. In

anti-mapositori - 22 January 2015

ko rega vauyeka vazofumura tione mukasazonyara varume. kkkkk. rega vauye vazodzingwa ma demon vatendeuke usare wave wega Ndanga. kkkk. or iwe enda unofumuraka tione kt haunyari here kkkk.“I have had to restrain several of our prophets who wanted to be given permission to unmask him because we feel it is out of bounds for us,” Ndanga said.Well done Prophet Magaya

mkomana - 22 January 2015

ko rega vauyeka vazofumura tione mukasazonyara varume. kkkkk. rega vauye vazodzingwa ma demon vatendeuke usare wave wega Ndanga. kkkk. or iwe enda unofumuraka tione kt haunyari here kkkk.“I have had to restrain several of our prophets who wanted to be given permission to unmask him because we feel it is out of bounds for us,” Ndanga said.Well done Prophet Magaya

mkomana - 22 January 2015

@ Anti-mapositori. i second your opinion prophet Magaya could be standing for Prophet Elijah against the baals (mapositori) of today). kuvhunduka chati kwatara hunge une katurikwa apa hapana kunzi mapositori ose, ivo vanozviziva vanozviita. an example of a positori sect which could be clean on all this is zvapupu zva Jesu.

lemme talk - 22 January 2015

@nyamaz Man's thinking is fallable. Mwari vandiudza kuti udza Nyamazi asiye hupombwe harisi shoko raMwari here. Kana uchiti shoko ramwari rose zvaro ririmumagwaro chete haiwa pfungwa dzakamanikana

Madzibaba - 22 January 2015

Vazhinji vanotya kundofumurwa hupombwe nehuroyi saka vanotuka mapositori. Kana pane anonatsoziva muroyi chaiye enda unomuti hande sinagogi anobvuma asi ukati kumasowe munotosvorana

Madzibaba - 22 January 2015

Izwi zvarakatanga kutaura kuvatema rakaramba zvekutora mari kuhwai dzaChristu. Saka uyu mweya unotora mari in bins ndeupiko uyu

Madzibaba - 22 January 2015

true dat madzibaba. kwedu isu w read the bible. people just say zvevasingaziwi. kwana Magaya takasvikawo ikoko tichida kupona. Maanointing oil nemacalender tichizvitengawo but hapana chaishanda, thingz only got worse for m. kwaMadzibaba ndiko chaiko nt these fake prophets

andyblem - 22 January 2015

can you tell me if you say this is a true mupositori of which he is under the Ndanga sect. there is a man anonzi Mabhiza he is the leader of a positori church inonzi st jonhs apostolic church of the whole world. that man was dark as i know him like macheso but ryt now he is light skinned like beyonce kubva muzuda ksvika pasi petsoka zvekunyatsoona kuti aka bleacher kana nemiwo why would a man do that if its not a marine spirit as we now know from the knowledge that we have from prophet Magaya that marine spirits mainly uses light skinned people. i wonder. Besides that he was given a fake degree akunzi doctor when we actually know kuti haana kudzidza. anoti if a person joins his church ane mari anopa munhu iyeye chigaro later on you will see that person akungo sauka sauka en you would wonder kuti can God make a man poor or he will add more riches. kana mabhiza uyu aona kuti munhu uya asauka ano replacer with someone else. its painful. vanozviti vana va johhanne wetatu wake up. God is alive. its not your fault you are blind folded. anonyenga vana vesangano futi so be careful ryt now he has a 4th wife netuma bbe hobho. ukamuona akapfeka zvino penya penya kunze uko zvakaita se necklace unoti hasi mupositori

kimhood - 22 January 2015

Regai zvikurire pamwe. Ndiyani uyo anoda kubvisa kauswa kari muziso remumwe......

BABA - 22 January 2015

l used to respect Magaya so much but now after reading this ,l have to think again.A true man of God does not critisise other churches nor religions.Personally l am also an apostolic wechishanu-l dont know where people get this idea that we dont believe in the bible.Not reading it at Masowe does not mean that we dont believe it.we read it anywhere else at home ,schools etc.zvinotaurwa naMagaya ...eeish.

comrade - 22 January 2015

I believe what Magaya has said, for the bible says Satan came to kill, steal, and destroy, the devil is really working in these kirawas such that you find yourself in a pit..hanzi come back after every three days if you don't then what?

Slivia - 22 January 2015

@madzibaba why do you like the fact yekuti munhu afumurwe hupombwe ndopamunorasika ipapo. Jesu wani akati kana pane anozviita mutsvene ngaauye atake pfambi iyi nemabwe. ipai vanhu kundiso kwete kufumura vanhu. wolf in sheep clothing

kimhood - 22 January 2015

Do we have mapostori on this forum by any chance??? True or false that training for mapostori and n'anga is the same. Both sects' training is under the water. One chooses which umbrella he would like to work under i.e. church umbrella or witchdoctor after the training. That is why it is easy for someone who is from white garment churches to become a witchdoctor. Many of the former mapostori are denouncing their previous way of worship and came to surrender mbiya, tsvimbo, garments, etc. Can someone also answer the following question why is it that when Prophet Magaya is casting evil spirits out mapostori start manifesting during deliverance time. I have seen living testimonies of mapostori who have left their ways and surrendered their tools vakatanga kunamata Mwari mupenyu. It is always advisable kutsvaga zivo munhu usati watanga kungo attacker zvataurwa ne muzodziwa wa Mwari. Pane chokwadi pa teaching yava Magaya apa. For more information about this I suggest you get a booklet rakanyorwa na Prophet Magaya rakanzi Marine Spirits/Mweya yemumvura - your eyes will be opened.

Tindo - 22 January 2015

Thank you Prophet W. Magaya. I think people should read the book or see the preaching on yadah tv. Demons started manifesting whilst he was teaching the subject but the man of God continued zvakadaro. Glory be to God. Handei naro shoko rechokwadi. We love you servant of the Most High.

Hannah Miriam - 22 January 2015

Excuse me, those who ar saying postori is a church. It's not a church but a cult. Please be guided accordingly.

Favour - 22 January 2015

Madzibaba Ndanga you can not accuse Prophet Magaya a real Man of God that he is possessed by demons whilst you are the one who is possessed with Evil spirits.....Marine spirits work hand in hand with the devil so that means you are one of his Agent...

Natalie Cole - 22 January 2015

What a mighty deliverance we had last sunday. Demons started manifesting when the man of God was still teaching. What a huge manifestation! What does that mean to you reader. It means many are under the marine spirit yoke. Join Prophet W Magaya on yadah tv and you will be blessed in Jesus' Name.

Favour - 22 January 2015

@Madzibaba Dicksense:.....My question is why does one has to remove his/her shoes, jewellery,mobile fone, money and leave them outside the shrines, please enlighten me on this maybe I will understand better

Slivia - 22 January 2015

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