Madzibaba Ishamea's strange beliefs

HARARE - They live in a world of their own, in small communities.

To them, experiencing wet dreams is as bad as committing murder.

These are the Vapositori of Johane Masowe eChishanu who worship in Harare’s Budiriro suburb at a place popularly known as paMatanga (tanks).

A visit by the Weekend Post to the shrine revealed a simple but strict lifestyle.

Their shrine is no different from other Vapositori worship places, but their beliefs seem different from other apostolic sects.

Madzibaba Ishamea told this publication how they live and what they believe in.

“The secret of life is to choose what you want to be and what you do not want.

“We chose to be Vapositori and it is our obligation to observe our church rules every time, ndosaka zvichinzi zvakaoma sekunamata (Worshipping God needs people who stick to principles).

“We believe it is a sin just like killing to experience wet dreams because God has made man and woman for a purpose — that is to help each other,” he said.

Madzibaba Ishamea said experiencing wet dreams was a clear sign that one is old enough to marry but people tend to resist.

“The word says killing is a sin hence having wet dreams is a way of wasting “seeds” and the Johane Masowe Church does not brook this.

“Why should a grown up man have wet dreams when he can get a wife? He should marry, having wet dreams is driven by the devil, it’s something that should never happen to a man,” he said.

“Sending children to school, is also a sin. Modern schools are the deathbed of our culture; therefore, we do not allow our children to attend school.

“In schools, children are taught to use condoms to prevent getting unwanted pregnancies and STIs. Putting on a condom is tantamount to killing because the condom prevents man’s seeds from entering a woman’s body, killing potential babies,” he said.

Madzibaba Ishamea said in schools, children are taught to exercise birth control methods such as taking family planning pills and according to church rules, this is killing.

“We teach our children basic skills like farming, carpentry, building and motor mechanics among others, but we are not allowed by the church to seek formal employment as this will jeopardise time to worship,” he said.

Paying lobola is also a sin, according to Madzibaba Ishamea. “Getting married is okay but trading people is a sin. No one is allowed to sell another person, hence we are not allowed to charge a bride price,” he said.

According to the church doctrine, having sex with a woman who is more than six months pregnant is also a sin.

“A man is not allowed to have sex with a woman who is six or more months pregnant and it is also not good for men to yearn for sex. Owing to this, man is allowed to marry another woman so as to avoid the sin of burning with desire,” he said.

Using a phone and watching television is also not allowed in Masowe yeChishanu Apostolic Church, according to Madzibaba Ishamea.

“We communicate by sending letters since we do not believe in technology. Of course, our children do not go to school but as I said before, we teach them basic skills in life, including reading and writing,” he said adding the church bars them from venturing into tobacco farming and visiting hospitals.

“Mupositori chaiye haabvumirwe kurima fodya kana kuenda kuchipatara. Hatitombobati phone zvachose, kana paita emergency hama dzangu dzechirungu dzingatophona panext door ndozoudzwa nemuromo. (We are not allowed to venture into tobacco farming and visiting hospitals for medication. Our doctrine restricts us from using a phone).

“Why should we deal with tobacco? God created us for a purpose and whenever we get sick we go back to God and he has the answer.”

Madzibaba Ishamea said church rules do not allow them to be counted during census and they are not worried about obtaining national identification documents.

“We find no value or benefit from the census, what for after all?” he said.

However, Madzibaba Ishamea dismissed allegations that they divorce wives who are non-virgins when they marry.

“Isu kuno hatinyengi vasikana nemuromo asi kuti tinotsvagirwa neDenga. Saka zvekuti munhu anoroora mvana tinongozvinzwirawo munyika umo (We do not propose to girls but they are Heaven-sent, hence we are not known to marry non-virgin wives),” he said.

Last week, Madzibaba Ishamea’s Johanne Masowe eChishanu Apostolic sect members went on the rampage, beating up police officers, journalists and officials from the Apostolic Christian Council of Zimbabwe (ACCZ). 

Our reporters, Sharon Muguwu and Vasco Chaya spoke to him last year in an exclusive interview where he made stunning revelations and revealed strange beliefs that made his church as controversial as it is.

In the interview, he insisted that his name was Ishamea not Ishmael. Read the fascinating interview which we reproduce below. The story was first published in our sister paper, The Weekend Post.

 

Comments (30)

Avo vagwere vepfungwa chaivo vakavhuvatigwa nemhute yerima vanoda kuonesewa jena guru vagogona kununga nariti pavanechiedza . Haisi mhosva yavo asi kuposha kuhwisisa vhangeri so vanhu vakadai vanoda kupiwa madondoro vagogona kufamba vasvike gehena dzvene risina mbavha nevaroyi

MukarangawekuMberengwa - 9 June 2014

Satanism at its peak..

The Wayfarer - 9 June 2014

Surely denying children an education is child abuse? This is a cult period.

mukwerekwere - 9 June 2014

Mufunge I have been a Mupostori we Chishanu for a longtime and my entire family also ndeve Chishanu. I have children ll girls who have done well in life and one of them recently graduated with a PhD. Neverhave we been taught mitemo ye church seiri kunyorwa na reporter. If these are true then church iyi haizi yeChishanu and I wpuld agree kuti this is a cult as opposed to being a church. Madzibaba Nehemia must be turning in his grave.

matombo - 10 June 2014

Any person who denies kids the right to education must be stopped. He just admitted to a crime. Subjecting people to pre-historic practices under the guise of religious freedom is just plain stupid.

Moe_Syszlack - 10 June 2014

"Of course, our children do not go to school but as I said before, we teach them basic skills in life, including reading and writing," How can you teach them to read and write unless you yourself went to school.. So you do not allow your children to go to school imi makaenda....Unotoshaya kuti zvinhu zvacho zvirikumbofamba sei

Motumbo - 10 June 2014

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DR T - 10 June 2014

If these allegations are true, lot of cancelling are required to this Madzibaba church. There must also be a board that that has to be set that looks at churchs constitution that they do not violate human rights

GWEJE - 10 June 2014

what there are somethings there are missing. you need education to spread your gospel even to the whiteman's world. this seems to be a gospel for the africans only, while any good news should be told to the whole world according to the creator of the world, but theirs seems to be only confined to budiriro only. there have strong points tho like the fact that when we are sick we have to look to God and that our education system is exposing children to many evils

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GALLERYCARTRIDGES - 10 June 2014

madzibaba ava vanoda kubatsirwa vava kurwara. hakuna mweya wamwari unotaura zvakaipa kudaro. Vadare vacho vari wrong nekuti ndivo vanetsananguro dzemuporofita wavo. NGAVARANGWE NEMUTEMO JERTE CHAIRO. TANYARA MAPOSITORI. Let them go to jail. why beating Law enforcement agents and journalists.

Magaya - 10 June 2014

madzibaba ava vanoda kubatsirwa vava kurwara. hakuna mweya wamwari unotaura zvakaipa kudaro. Vadare vacho vari wrong nekuti ndivo vanetsananguro dzemuporofita wavo. NGAVARANGWE NEMUTEMO JERE CHAIRO. TANYARA MAPOSITORI. Let them go to jail. why beating Law enforcement agents and journalists.

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GALLERYCARTRIDGES - 10 June 2014

this whole article is a fabrication...vakaita naye interview kupi..the style of writing iktooneka kti ndezvekufunga mumusoro n hearsay.....they may b practising that bt pakuti u got it from Madzibaba or any member of dat church is a LIE!!tokuziwai wemanewspaper

Zvie - 10 June 2014

nhai vanhu wee,kana vanhu vaviri kanavatatu vakatenderana kufamba nzira imwe imhosva here? pane chitenderano apa.zvitenderano zvizhinji dzimwe church dzinomwa doro nekuputa dzimwe kuwana vakadzi vazhinji,dzimwe kupfeka ma uniform vamwe kuridza ngoma zvese zvitenderano,mhosva iripapi pachitenderano kana uchitevedza zvakatenderanwa.kana uchida doro endakunomwiwa doro ,kana uchida vakadzi vakawanda kuriko.kokuzoti izviwazviitirei kwedu kugona?. vatenderana kufamba nzira imwe regai vafambe

muchekadzafa - 10 June 2014

Johane Masowe Chishanu is not cult but there are weevils within the church our leaders varume vashanu vaozviziva izvi,,, vanogara patsananguro dzechishanu vanoziva zvakataura nemutumwa johane paange oenda mazururandi, akotaura kuti, " ndava kusiyayi mumbiri yevaporofita asi chenjerai nekuti vamwe vavo varasikisi", saka to budiriro2 sect yakadyiwa netsananguro. Hakuna dzidziso yakadaro kumasowe

Madziababa Dread - 10 June 2014

I heard that vapositori sit on the ground in a circle, the men on one side, the women on the other. This is because the men do not wear underwear, so they are swinging. The women can then see what the men have so they can be interested..

dr cool - 10 June 2014

If this interview is real, show us the video!

amos rendo - 10 June 2014

Where is the story?

Johno - 10 June 2014

Hapana nyaya apa. Ndanga is well known in using such dirty tactics. Why does he use Newsday for his publications instead of the state run newspapers. Who is NDANGA?

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Treasure - 10 June 2014

Munhu agarwa nasatan haangaiti zvinidiwa na Mwari. Munhu asinakufunda haakoshesi chikoro. Why use phone yepanext door if you can have yours? How can you do motor mecs if you can't read?

Mhofu - 10 June 2014

Madzibaba Ishmea may be right in some areas but he is going to extremes with the doctrine.If he had used the Bible for guidance he would not have lost like that.Joseph and Mary were going to register for census when she gave birth to Jesus.Carpentry and those profession he named needs someone who learned measurement how can an uneducated person do that well.People are saved by taking Jesus' yoke not Madzibaba Ishmea's yoke.If one had known Jesus to be his saviour he also should know that he should marry a virgin or be married a virgin and all those things like masterbation and use of contraceptives sure its a sin.But not to such extremes like the use of cellphones,going to school.The Bible said in the end time knowledge will expand in order to transmit the Word of God to the utmost parts of the world before the coming of Christ.

OBSERVER - 10 June 2014

iiiiiiiiiihhhhhhh!!!!!!!ZVINHU ZVACHO UNOTOSHAYA KUTI ZVIRIKUMBOFAMBA SEI?????

VIMBAINASHE - 12 June 2014

God created so many fools and made sure there are these canning culprits to put those fools to use. Anyone with brains can tell that this is too extreme and quit, but you find people getting absorbed and queuing behind an insane person who pretends to be under the guidance of God when in actual fact he is a satanist. Do I have to live my father's life over again when he even made some visible strides towards development? can a normal woman be instructed to ignore her pants in this world of today? Do we have a normal parent who still require some knowledge as to the importance of sending their child to school? MAWONI AYA KUDHEERERA NYIKA UKU HU-U-UHU!

chanhuwa chii? - 12 June 2014

Talk of pure madness

B MANN - 12 June 2014

my question will be why they agree kunotambira phone panext door ivo vachirambidza phone, plus if they dont believe in technology why board cars why wear Garments why not wear nhembe

tichadya mangwiro - 13 June 2014

Nothing strange in their beliefs. No one knows what the truth is and no one can condemn what they don't know. Let them lead their life in harmony and who are we to judge. What have we seen to be holier than them ? They are better like that because they are not forcing anyone

shepherd - 14 June 2014

After taking social anthropology as a program i began to understand what is cultural reletavism unlike cultural universalism. Thats their culture let them live like that ana makandiwa wani vanoti kana uchida mwari wako mupe mari of which one has to pay morethan a dollar for him or her to get more blessings 'ukapa mwari wako dollar unofunga kuti angakupa makomborero' You expect to be blessed by God whilst you give him just a dollar.

Baba Zlattan - 15 June 2014

The bible says you have to respect the gnvnt authorities kuna Romans so is there any respect kana makuvarova netsvimbo? wotoshaya kuti zvikumbo fambasei

Nyash - 17 June 2014

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