It's you, Tsvangirai tells Mugabe

HARARE - Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai said yesterday it was now clear that President Robert Mugabe was supporting rebels in a plot to dethrone him from the MDC presidency.

During his Independence Day celebrations speech, Mugabe appeared to show support for expelled MDC rebels led by Elton Mangoma.

Mugabe spoke in the wake of the opposition MDC’s move to expel Mangoma and his allies who have been calling for a party leadership renewal.

The MDC national council summarily expelled Mangoma, Last Maengahama, Jacob Mafume and Promise Mkwananzi.

Mangoma in February alleged he had been beaten up by Tsvangirai loyalists while emerging from a party meeting.

He lodged a police report, alleging Tsvangirai masterminded the beating, an accusation strenuously rejected by the MDC leader. The case is now before the courts.

Mugabe said the MDC should resolve their internal squabbles in peace or split in peace without violence, adding the rebels had a right to raise objections to Tsvangirai’s continued leadership.

Addressing mourners at the funeral of a Mbare-based MDC activist John Dungwa, 82, popularly known as “Mudhara Mutambu”, Tsvangirai said Mugabe’s remarks vindicated his party’s assertion that the chorus for him to step aside ostensibly to allow the MDC to re-energise itself in the wake of last year’s electoral defeat to Zanu PF, was suspiciously louder in Mugabe’s ruling Zanu PF party.

“I heard my colleague (President Mugabe) saying rebels in the MDC should be left to express their opinion. Wazobuda pachenaka kuti ndiwe waivatuma. Mwoyochena wei mombe kuyamwisa mhuru isiri yayo? (Now you have come out clear that you sent them (rebels) to cause disunity. How does a cow feed another’s calf?)” Tsvangirai queried.

Mugabe told the Independence Day crowd : “Kana muchisiyana, vanobuda vobuda parunyararo kana vachida kuita party yavo, voita parunyararo (If there is a break-up, it must be in peace and if they want to have their own party, let them do it peacefully).

“Haungarambidze vane pfungwa dzakati kuti, kuitawo chido chavo kana kutaura  honzi wazvitaurirei. Ko freedom yakauya nerusununguko inenge yobva papi? (You cannot ban people from having a different opinion, where is the freedom that came with independence?)

“Hatidi hun’an’a pakati pedu. Avo vatiri kunzwa vari kuda kurovana pamusana pekuti havachanzwanana, aiwa, tiri kuda kuti vagadzirise nyaya dzavo  pakunyarara vari mumaoffice. Zvekurovana hatidi (We don’t want quarrels among us. Those fighting because of internal differences, we say no, we want them to resolve their differences in peace. We don’t want violence),” he said.

“Hatidi violence, takaramba violence kare . Itai nyaya dzenyu parunyararo, gakava rinoitwa asi vanhu vanogarisana pasi. (We say no to violence, we rejected violence long back. Resolve this in peace, there might be differences but they must be civilised)”

Likening the trials and tribulations of his MDC project founded in 1999 to the Moses-led Biblical exodus of Israelites from Egyptian captivity to Canaan, Tsvangirai took a dig at Mangoma and his team saying the children who had been born en-route to the “promised land” had become troublesome.

Mangoma is believed to have joined the MDC after the 2005 split. 

The veteran opposition politician said party cadres like Dungwa who had founded the party in 1999 were its shareholders as opposed to stakeholders such as Mangoma who had joined the MDC along the way.

“It is individuals like (the deceased) Dungwa, (Morgan) Femai, Muza and others here who are the party’s shareholders,” Tsvangirai said.

“We cannot do anything without them but others are mere stakeholders whom we can do without.”

Tsvangirai said instead of mourning, the MDC family needed to celebrate the life of the late Dungwa whom he described as a fearless, inspired and strong man in the face of great opposition.

“This old man was inspired,” Tsvangirai said.

“One would question where he got his inspiration and energy from. In terms of forming the party, Mr Mutambu is one of the founding fathers. This man was a shareholder.”

Speaking at the same occasion, MDC organising secretary Nelson Chamisa mocked Mangoma, saying he was least qualified to talk about the MDC’s founding values since he was not there when the party was formed.

Chamisa said only founding members such as Dungwa had the moral high ground to talk about the party’s values.

“How do you talk about the MDC’s founding values yet you were also founded by the party?” Chamisa said.

“The MDC is not about positions and Dungwa understood that and was determined.”

Internal party documents claim Mangoma was working in cahoots with Zanu PF to unseat Tsvangirai, a charge he has outrightly rejected.

Comments (32)

Tsvangirai lacks seriousness. He seems to be the only one taking Uncle Bob seriously nowadays. Uncle Bob is now well advanced in age and cannot be taken seriously since most of his utterances are jokes. Does it make sense for the leader of the opposition to comment on every joke that Uncle Bob makes? Instead Mr Tsvangirai must be mapping the way forward for his ailing party that seems to have lost all sense of direction since the Nikuved elections. We need leaders who inspire confidence. By the way, Morgan at 62 is no longer a spring chicken and should be considering retirement hopefully at 65 which is generally the age of retirement in Zim. I don't think there is anything new we can hear from Morgan that he has not said since 1999. PS: Gentlemen never marry a woman young enough to be your daughter as the young missus will never allow you to retire. This is the tragedy of Zimbabwe.

Dzakutsaku - 23 April 2014

What is required now is to remain focused,we are behind you Mr Tsvangirai, we pray that all demons sent to confuse people be casted out and normalcy brought back with vigour and determination ,your hands as I see it are CLEAN AND BLOODLESS, May God do wonders for your leadership.

pagomo - 23 April 2014

My suggestion to Dr R. Tsvangirai is that he should employ an Intelligence unit to avoid another Mangoma situation. Up until now there is still no solid evidence that Mangoma is connected to ZANU PF, just speculations. However we are behind you and the struggle continues.

Dr Know - 23 April 2014

Dear MDC supporters....In your heart of hearts do you REALLY believe Tsvangirayi can rule this country? Has Tsvangirayi not made a SINGLE mistake since 1999? And if he has have those mistakes not given a glimpse of what kind of leader he is????

wezhira wezhara - 23 April 2014

@Wezhira wezhara,-the Bible says "...for all have sinned....". So who are you to ask such a question about Tsvangirai? And who has more sins, one who has an affair while his wife is on the death bed and boasts of degrees in violence? Or one who after his wife passed away was unfortunate to meet with not so good women before settling for one?

Dr Know - 23 April 2014

It is now clear that Tsvangirai and Chamisa are the ones destroying that party.Where in the MDC constitution does it say that only those who were around when the party was formed should speak out.This is a shame to all who follow such kind of leadership.have you ever heard anyone in zanu castigating all those who joined the liberation struggle at a much later stage.Mai Mujuru joined the struggle in 1976 but she performed some feats which those who had joined the struggle at its inception cannot even perform.Cry my beloved MDC.

beyond - 23 April 2014

Mugabe is the mother of darkness, ask any sin you think he had never committed and i will answer you. Morgan is far far better because whatever he did was published. When i was doing my primary education, i still remember those magazines Horizon and Moto(Gweru Catholic) were taken to task when they released his extramarital affairs with Grace which resulted in a baby girl by the name Bona. Horizon even produced a picture and the editor for that magazine was taken to task. I still remember seeing P. KOMBAYI'S tattered body parts with a private part i had never seen mauled like that. His kid showed us at school. Lest we forget guys!!

Charikinya - 23 April 2014

Kana newewo haunyari here kupomera harahwa yave hari yofanzirofa kuti ndiwe uri kuda kuparadza musha wangu?

Che Guevara - 23 April 2014

@ Beyond. I like your analysis. You are a political genius. Tsvangirai and Chamisa are making fools of themselves. No individual has title deeds to a political party. You can be there when a political party is being formed but you won't claim the party as yours as you would claim your children in a maintenance court. A political party is never an extension of individuals. Was Barack Obama there when the Democratic Party was formed? No he wasn't. Not even his grandfather had been born when the party was formed. Now he is one of the leaders of that party and the party sponsored his rise to the American presidency. It's possible for Kasukuwere to contest the presidency of ZANU PF with Mugabe as it is possible for Douglas Mwonzora to contest the MDC-T presidency with Tsvangirai. Lack of this basic democratic understanding is the cause of all the internal troubles in all the parties. In the past such feelings of entitlement reflected themselves in the ZUD party of Margaret Dongo and the ZUM party of Edgar Tekere. Remember the public spate between Dongo and Kempton Makamure of ZUD and the one between Masipula Sithole and Edgar Tekere in ZUM. In parties all animals must be equal for the sake of democracy.

Zest Mazhara - 23 April 2014

who is he to comment on democracy in MDC or zimbabwe,let alone zanu pf? you call that democracy when you kill people like chitepo,tongogara, Masuku lookout,the list is end less. now you want to start talking of democracy. but anywere that is the game of politics. The truth is for us to be free from this bondage we have to take up arms i bet you. { {pamberi nehondo.} this is not coming to any end. gwesela@thepub.co.za

chando - 23 April 2014

MDC and the rest of the opposition parties are spent cartridges no more fire power, we need a revolution movement, aluta continua. all those with the same mentality pliz ngatitaurei. gwesela@thepub.co.za

chando - 23 April 2014

I think some people are just confused. I am responding to Zest and Beyond who seem to be lost on what MT and NC are doing or rather saying. By asking Mangoma the question on how he knows the Founding Values of the MDC when he joined the MDC at a much later stage they are not saying he is not a Freedom Fighter (if you will), all they are saying is he does not know those values he is talking about using the plural "we or our" because he was not there when they were formulated in the first place. To use Beyond's own example, it is the same as Mai Mujuru talking about what "they" agreed on when Zanu Pf was formed, when she was not even there when that party was formed . All mai mujuru or mangoma had to do is fight for a cause he/she knew rather than talk about the formation of Zanu PF/mdc which he/she never attended. To make matters worse Mangoma is pretending as if he was there when the MDC was formed, what hogwash, he was not there, he only arrived in 2005 after a lot of us had endured the worst forms of punishment one can ever imagine. To those with a discerning mind, which fortunately most Zimbabweans have except for Beyond and Zest whatever that means, Mangoma is a sellout or rather has always been a sellout. MT and NC should learn a lesson as to the who is who they put in influential positions. Mangoma has proven to be an opportunist hell bent on destroying everything the likes of MT and NC have stood for. He does not deserve any mercy, they should have been extremely ruthless in purging him (I don't mean physically though).

Tonderai Gonzo - 23 April 2014

Tsvangirai, this is not the way you gather opposition party intelligence. Sure kumirira kuti Mugabe ataure pa Independence uchiona TV mumba then kwavakusimuka kutitaurira kuti ya-a tamubata. You are in opposition and him talking like this is what we expected. Hakunavo kunodzidzisva presidential aspirants to mature tiendese murume uyu here veduwe.

Vonai - 23 April 2014

Mr Tsvangson Save, where is your dear Wife Elizabeth Macheka these days? Ingawani during the campaing for elections in 2013 mai famba mose, iye Eliza achiti pamberi ne MDC? Stop talking about Robert Mugabe when your personal like and MDC Tea party is in shambles.

Jackson Sithole - 23 April 2014

Tonderai Gonzo; the mdc ttransformed from ZCTU to a political party. All structure were there saka it was not formed from nowhere as you want us to believe. The ZCTU structures were put in place by Zanu pf and argueably ZCTU rebelled from zanu pf to form mdc and that's why their reasoning resembles the zanu pf way of thinking. Hapana huchenjeri hwakashanda to form this party. Tsvangirai and his team cannot form a party from scratch, their brains and organisational capacity is not that big.

Chenai - 23 April 2014

But guys I found nothing wrong with what R.G said, it was just pure advice to Tsvangirai to put their house in order and in peace. What is wrong with that noble and clear advice to an opposition friend?

rush - 24 April 2014

i think Mt lost it because RGM was merely giving advice take it or leave because its free

c.masvosva - 24 April 2014

It is Mangoma who behaved as if he owned democracy.Surely Tsvangirai&Chamisa are totally innocent.The two happen to be very strong,determined leaders in MDC-T. It is very wrong for anyone to think that the president is just a joking man&should not be taken se riously.In spite of age,Mugabe is our president&should be taken seriously each time he opens his mouth.Yes Tsvangirai is right to feel vindicated by the president's utte rances on Mangoma & company.

Kurauone Kugarika - 24 April 2014

It is Mangoma who behaved as if he owned democracy.Surely Tsvangirai&Chamisa are totally innocent.The two happen to be very strong,determined leaders in MDC-T. It is very wrong for anyone to think that the president is just a joking man&should not be taken se riously.In spite of age,Mugabe is our president&should be taken seriously each time he opens his mouth.Yes Tsvangirai is right to feel vindicated by the president's utte rances on Mangoma & company.

Kurauone Kugarika - 24 April 2014

It is Mangoma who behaved as if he owned democracy.Surely Tsvangirai&Chamisa are totally innocent.The two happen to be very strong,determined leaders in MDC-T. It is very wrong for anyone to think that the president is just a joking man&should not be taken se riously.In spite of age,Mugabe is our president&should be taken seriously each time he opens his mouth.Yes Tsvangirai is right to feel vindicated by the president's utte rances on Mangoma & company.

Kurauone Kugarika - 24 April 2014

It is Mangoma who behaved as if he owned democracy.Surely Tsvangirai&Chamisa are totally innocent.The two happen to be very strong,determined leaders in MDC-T. It is very wrong for anyone to think that the president is just a joking man&should not be taken se riously.In spite of age,Mugabe is our president&should be taken seriously each time he opens his mouth.Yes Tsvangirai is right to feel vindicated by the president's utte rances on Mangoma & company.

Kurauone Kugarika - 24 April 2014

It is Mangoma who behaved as if he owned democracy.Surely Tsvangirai&Chamisa are totally innocent.The two happen to be very strong,determined leaders in MDC-T. It is very wrong for anyone to think that the president is just a joking man&should not be taken se riously.In spite of age,Mugabe is our president&should be taken seriously each time he opens his mouth.Yes Tsvangirai is right to feel vindicated by the president's utte rances on Mangoma & company.

Kurauone Kugarika - 24 April 2014

It is Mangoma who behaved as if he owned democracy.Surely Tsvangirai&Chamisa are totally innocent.The two happen to be very strong,determined leaders in MDC-T. It is very wrong for anyone to think that the president is just a joking man&should not be taken se riously.In spite of age,Mugabe is our president&should be taken seriously each time he opens his mouth.Yes Tsvangirai is right to feel vindicated by the president's utte rances on Mangoma & company.

Kurauone Kugarika - 24 April 2014

It is Mangoma who behaved as if he owned democracy.Surely Tsvangirai&Chamisa are totally innocent.The two happen to be very strong,determined leaders in MDC-T. It is very wrong for anyone to think that the president is just a joking man&should not be taken se riously.In spite of age,Mugabe is our president&should be taken seriously each time he opens his mouth.Yes Tsvangirai is right to feel vindicated by the president's utte rances on Mangoma & company.

Kurauone Kugarika - 24 April 2014

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GALLERYCARTRIDGES - 24 April 2014

Mangoma Advice: Va Mangoma if you have the will of the people just form your own party and forget about Tsvangirayi, the people will follow you if you hold a mandate from them, table what you have to offer to them, asi beware do not enjoy the symphathy you are getting from the other side, it lasts so far as you are a divise instrument in MDC-T, a case against you has already been built, the day you lift your HEAD, they will say," ah ndiye ka uyu wokuwondonga Party yake, angatungamire nyika iyeyu?, think about these things, who would not love and support you if you are a weapon of mass destruction to the most formidable opposition to ZANU PF, think about it, but i am afraid you can be used as a scapegoat to show how violent your party or other parties are. This is politics.

Muprofita - 24 April 2014

he knows how to play his cards,he is so cunning that you even end up fighting among yourself, that is robert mugabe.the devil at play. he is a master of his own,he did out play ndabaning ,tekere,chikerema,nkomo,makoni, you can mention the whole list, what is needed we zimbabweans we know.lets get rid of this evil vanhu wekani.vanhu votambura kusvika rini?

chando - 24 April 2014

Let's vote: Tsvangirai or Mangoma? I go for Mangoma. Ko iwe?

vote now - 24 April 2014

Chamisa unogona kubwereketa wena

studio77 - 25 April 2014

Mangoma and group should just form their own party as Madhuku did. People will then decide whether to follow them or to remain behind.

mukanya - 26 April 2014

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