Ncube says no to coalition of 'convenience'

HARARE - The MDC led by Welshman Ncube launched its election campaign in Chikomba Central, Mashonaland East Province last Friday where Ncube defended his alliance with Zapu and United Movement for Democracy and explained reasons behind his non-participation in the grand coalition.

Our Senior Assistant Editor Guthrie Munyuki was there and below are the excerpts of the interview.

Q: Professor Welshman Ncube you have launched the MDC election campaign here in Chikomba yet your rivals — President Robert Mugabe and Morgan Tsvangirai — had theirs in Harare. Why the rural area for you?

A: We are a party and a coalition for devolution. We believe that the anomalous situation we have had of overly focusing the urban areas neglecting the rural areas where the majority of our people are (must be stopped).

We are a party which believes in devolution, we are a party which believes in empowering local communities, in particular rural communities which have borne the major brunt of underdevelopment and marginalisation in this country.

So we are sending a clear message as to who we represent, who we stand for and who we want to benefit for a future Zimbabwe.

Therefore, it’s not by accident that we are here in Chikomba and it’s not by accident that next week we launch the actual manifesto of the party in Binga.

A rural area, a marginalised area, which also has borne the major brunt of over centralised system of government we had.

That is why we are here and that is why we will be in Binga next week (July 20th).

Q: People are saying you still should have joined Morgan Tsvangirai in a grand coalition instead of an alliance with Zapu and the United Movement for Democracy. Don’t you stand the risk of being labelled a regional party?

A: I don’t see how we, first of all, become a regional party. We are three parties. The leadership of the United Movement for Democracy comes from Mashonaland, the leadership of Zapu, Dumiso Dabengwa, is from Matabeleland South and I am from the Midlands.

So you have three main provinces represented by the leadership at the top level but the rest of the leadership of these parties come from every corner of Zimbabwe.

We are here in Chikomba, the third- highest ranking person in the MDC is the chairman (Goodrich Chimbaira) who comes from here, who is our candidate for (Chikomba Central). The second-highest ranking is the vice president (Edwin Mushoriwa) who hails from Manicaland and resides in Harare.

So I cannot possibly see what sort of sense or logic is used to say three parties which come from three different provinces can be labelled regional when the other coalition which is thought to be national has three leaders or supposed leaders, who come from the same province, Manicaland.

How, by what logic, can you say three parties led by three men from Manicaland is a national coalition and three parties led by people coming from three different provinces of the country are regional? I cannot understand it. But what is most important is that we stand for every Zimbabwean. We are canvassing for support in every province.

We have 203 candidates in all the 10 administrative provinces of the country. And we are competitive in each and every one of those provinces.

Let those who think we are a regional party fool themselves, we are not!

Q: There has been so much talk about the differences between you and the other guys who are in the other coalition. What led to the failure to have a grand coalition?

A: First of all there was no attempt to build a grand coalition. You can’t go to the media, newspapers, and announce a coalition or discussions which never took place on the ground. So, one cannot even talk of a failure of something which was never attempted.

There was never such an attempt. We never participated in any meetings or any discussions for a grand coalition. But most importantly, you cannot have a coalition of convenience.

You cannot have a coalition of opportunists. If you are going to have a coalition it must be a coalition of people with some shared values, some shared principles and we simply don’t. The things which divide us are so numerous.

Once a humpty dumpty has broken, its pieces are scattered everywhere, you can’t re-build. And people should stop dreaming that the humpty dumpty, which was the united MDC, can be reconstructed in whatever form.

Some people will not like this but it is the truth.

Q: How deep-seated are these differences?

A: There are so deep-seated that they split the party in 2005. There are so deep-seated that in the last four years the MDC T, instead of focusing on re-building tasks between us they focused on recruiting our MPs, they bribed them. Look at where MaKhumalo (Nomalanga Khumalo) is; look at where the (Abednico) Bhebes are; that was their focus.

Look at how they treated us after our congress. Morgan and his team were saying the leader of the MDC is Arthur Mutambara; there is no other, they will work with him until the courts have determined. And we are saying the courts still have not determined.

So if Mutambara is the leader of the MDC, go and form a coalition with him, I am sure he is willing to do that. After all, he has been in coalition against us for the last two-and-half years. We disagree on just about everything. We, as a party, say there is no situation which can justify the use of violence as an instrument of political organisation.

We believe in collective democratic decision-making processes. I, as the president, cannot overrule the collective decisions either of the Standing Committee, the National Executive or the National Council. And there are so many things.

The only thing which is in common is that once-upon-a-time we were in the same party. We drifted apart and eventually split because we realised that whereas we will say the same things, we will practice different things.

Q: Doesn’t your remaining poles apart militate against what you want to achieve, to have a new dispensation in Zimbabwe?

A: The new dispensation is not a dispensation to remove (Robert) Mugabe. It is a dispensation to build a new Zimbabwe with different values in opposition to the Zanu PF values. And you cannot say let us remove Mugabe under a new dispensation when in fact we are behaving like Mugabe himself.

It doesn’t make any sense to us. And this is the opportunism; this is the coalition of convenience that I talk about.

We must have a coalition of shared values, a coalition of shared principles so that we can, if we successfully win elections, work together. But we cannot work together if we have contradictions.

Q: There are people who say there was reluctance by Welshman to form the grand coalition because he hopes there is a runoff and then he can bargain. Can you explain on this?

A: We have no interest in bargaining. We are being offered through the newspapers to be vice president this and to this ministerial post. If we wanted to bargain and we wanted power that is the shortest route to it. We are saying no; we will not be vice president in a government where we have nothing in common.

We will campaign for ourselves; we will contest in this election for the things we believe in. If the people of Zimbabwe elect us, and we hope they will, we will then form the next government. And if the people of Zimbabwe are not persuaded we are the right people at this particular time, so be it. We will happily go into opposition. We desire no bargaining with anyone, what for?

Q: How do you rate your chances in the forthcoming elections?

A: We have faith in the people. We believe in ourselves. We believe that our chances are as a good as any other candidate. And we have worked more than anybody else in the last two-and-a-half years, since our congress.

There is no village we have not been to and there is no door we have not knocked at over the last two-and-a-half years.

And we believe we have done our homework and we believe victory is ours.

Comments (77)

Look at how they treated us after our congress. Morgan and his team were saying the leader of the MDC is Arthur Mutambara; there is no other, they will work with him until the courts have determined. And we are saying the courts still have not determined. So if Mutambara is the leader of the MDC, go and form a coalition with him, I am sure he is willing to do that. After all, he has been in coalition against us for the last two-and-half years. We disagree on just about everything. We, as a party, say there is no situation which can justify the use of violence as an instrument of political organisation.

Be Factual - 16 July 2013

I really like this guy...he is as sane as they come. Principled and consistent.

Be Factual - 16 July 2013

This idiot agrees to an eternal Mugabe regime of more sanctions, more propaganda, more Zimdollar, More more money burning and more chunks and cabbages. Go to hell Welshman. ELECTIONS ARE ALL ABOUT CHANGE AND IF YOU ARE IN NO CAPACITY TO BRING CHANGE THEN STAY OUT OF THE GAME. FOOL

Suluman - 16 July 2013

TOLD YOU THIS MAN WAS A ZANUPF PROJECT

MANGOMA - 16 July 2013

TOLD YOU THIS MAN WAS A ZANUPF PROJECT

MANGOMA - 16 July 2013

So according to Ncube anything goes as long as Tsvangirai doesn't win. Ok we are watching.

Daddy teams - 16 July 2013

This loser is so evil that after he realised that his chances of winning are zero and nil, has decided to fight the only opposition credible of dethroning Mugabe. Continue day dreaming idiot. We are matching into state house stepping on you buttocks

Elizabeth - 16 July 2013

I now understand why Khumalo and Bhebhe left this man. Face it blaz. You are going to face an even worse punishment than that you saw in Makokoba. If ppl of Matebeleland hear these utterances, you wont bite a seat.

Stembeni - 16 July 2013

You bastard agrees to the continuous rule of ZPF merely because you cant remove them. So shut up about Gukurahundi. We are marching all the way to victory

Chinx - 16 July 2013

SHUT UP WENA. ELECTION RESULTS 2013 TSVANGIRAI-85%, MUGABE -10% KISNOT-3%, NCUBE-1% DABENGWA-0%

TARGETO - 16 July 2013

chawagona hapana.your problem is that you are hungry of power.Dabengwa said it yesterday you only want to desturb Morgan

mandimbandimba - 16 July 2013

This is a great man with principles and does not play to the gallery. Tswangirai has no brains to run Zim he changes positions every other day .They hate him because he is a Ndebele. Shame on u tribalists.

innocent matobo - 16 July 2013

Why enter into an election when you can't change the status quo.

Senzeni - 16 July 2013

Welshman the goal is to get rid of robert period. Once that is done then can u have a chance of pursuing something even greater right now robert's demise is the goal. And joining the coalition is not only PM Tsvangi's prerogative rather u must also take steps to initiate discussion with him to achieve the main goal at the moment which is to get rid of robert!

trayvon martin - 16 July 2013

Problem is with Tsvangirai. You are licking too much into this idiotic man's ass. Bite it. We won in 2008 without Mat South. He costed us over17 seats to Zpf and his party, but we gained over 40 seats from Manicaland, Mashingo and Mash West. from Zpf. We are too big as a China Mvt to be stopped by this directionless tribesman.

Wezhira - 16 July 2013

Problem is with Tsvangirai. You are licking too much into this idiotic man's ass thereby bringing him to unfounded prominence. Bite it. We won in 2008 without Mat South. He costed us over17 seats to Zpf and his party, but we gained over 40 seats from Manicaland, Mashingo and Mash West. from Zpf. We are too big as a China Mvt to be stopped by this directionless tribesman.

Wezhira - 16 July 2013

Very excellent response on the accusations about MDC being a regional party. I think the labelling is being promoted by SOME Shona tribalists (not every Shona or Ndebele is tribalist) who believe that for a party to be national it has to be led by a Shona person. You have my Vote Prof Ncube.

Nkalanga - 16 July 2013

the professor is a principled man, his biggest mistake was to have an idiot as the leader of a the original MDC, BUT ITS WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE NOW, if at all he must make a coalition with ZPF, THAT IS IF ZPF really needs him, but i don't think the revolutionary party takes any prisoners in terms of ideology. Once a puppet always one. BOB IS CLEAR ON THAT.

reason - 16 July 2013

These 2 idiots Ncube & Dabengwa want just want to split votes as they for sure know that they will not pick even 1 seat from MATEBELELAND REGIONS. i now beleive that they are ZANU PROJECTS TO SCUTTLE OUR MDC-T VOTES. PEOPLE OF MATEBELELAND DUMP THESE 2 ZANUPF AGENTS. THEY WANT THE STATUS CORE BUT US WE NEED THE GUKURAHUNDI KILLINGS TO BE INVESTIGATED WHEN TSVANGIRAI COMES INTO POWER.

EARTHQUAKE31JULY - 16 July 2013

babudze nkalanga! leave ncube alone. if mdc t were clever, they would have tried to work with ncube from the moment he was elected president of mdc n. Instead they insulted him, laughed when he was barred from attending monday TEA SESSIONS with Mugabe. Bribed his mps into leaving mdc n. Virtually tried to destroy MDC N by hook and crook means. coalition stuff it

john ndola - 16 July 2013

I will not judge whether the prof is tribalist or not. to be fair to him, I will blame both parties for not forming a coalition! but amrk my words, Zimbabwe will go for election, first round there will not be a winner and Tvsangirayi will win on the secon round. I do nott think at that point (run-off) MT will need the prof. anymore. I have observed that these two will never mix, MT is milk, the Prof is oil, NO POINT IN TRYING TO MAKE THEM MIX...so complete the change that we have started. Change is upon us whether the haters and spoilers - profs. etc want it or not! Save musacheuka muridzo, ngwarirayi mabasa eZanu-kwahi hayi vatorecruita Prof basa kare!

TaTanga - 16 July 2013

If he is irrelevant why waste time commenting and calling him names...if he has no support why worry....its his right to stand for what he believes in.....and his freedom of Association.....someone spent the last two years conniving with Bob for his exclusion.....u did not shout obscenities at him it was ok....stay put with tea loving leader.

Mthunzie - 16 July 2013

There are so deep-seated that they split the party in 2005. There are so deep-seated that in the last four years the MDC T, instead of focusing on re-building tasks between us they focused on recruiting our MPs, they bribed them. Look at where MaKhumalo (Nomalanga Khumalo) is; look at where the (Abednico) Bhebes are; that was their focus. Look at how they treated us after our congress. Morgan and his team were saying the leader of the MDC is Arthur Mutambara; there is no other, they will work with him until the courts have determined. And we are saying the courts still have not determined. Tell them professor. I know this is a bitter truth to Tsvangirai and his tribalistic supporters. If Tsvangirai was genuine he was going to start negotiating with Ncube soon after the formation of the gvt of national unity so as to map the way forward for these elections, rather than waiting to negotiate through the press 34 days before the nomination court. This is what we call hypocrisy and dullness.

chindori chinyika - 16 July 2013

Ncube you cannot continue being bitter about your failure to wrestle power from Morgan. You need to have a real understanding of the people you purport to lead. We the people of Zimbabwe we do not understand you despite paying so much attention to what you say you stand for. My only conclusion is that you hate Tsvangirai so much.

chokwadi - 16 July 2013

How will you lead the nation if you are so unforgiving

chokwadi - 16 July 2013

Prof Ncube let me venture to assist you in your assessment of our political environment. The reality is that owing to ghukurahundi shonas would be reluctant to give 100% power to a Ndebele. lets face it there is a genuine fear of retaliation. Dabengwa and yourself should wake up and smell the coffee and address this real issue if you want a fighting chance.

Palazzo - 16 July 2013

Brilliant interview as usual from MaWelsh. I think whoever is critisizing this Political Gentleman has not even read the above interview. Green Green Ayithelelwe Ngaidiridzwe! We act while other promise!

Lokayi WaNkomponi - 16 July 2013

People in Kombies, Shops & other gatherings are saying that a school girl asked the presidential candidates Ncube, Mugabe, Tsvangirai the following questions: school girl: Ncube what does the green colour mean? Ncube: It means life. School girl: So it means your party will bring life to Zimbabwe. Ncube: Yes. School girl: Why is Baba Jukwa always insulting you? Ncube: He hates me. School girl: Why? Ncube: Because I am a Ncube. school girl: Tsvangirai, what does red colour mean? Tsvangirai: It means danger. school girl: So it means your party will bring danger to our country. Tsvangirai: Yes, even to your morals. school girl: Who is Baba Jukwa? Tsvangirai: He is my CIO from ZANU PF who is campaigning for me by demonising my opponents such as Ncube. School girl: Mugabe, what does a clenched fist mean? Mugabe: It means I fight and beat all my opponents. Who is Baba Jukwa? Mugabe: He is my CIO who is singing a lullaby to Tsvangirai until election date on 31 july. school girl: Thank you gentlemen all of you have been informative to the nation. I think people will vote wisely.

chindori chinyika - 16 July 2013

Where is Ncube s beef really on tea sessions with Mugabe. Why are clamouring for tea when you fronted your henchman, Mtambara. You knew you where regional material isn't it? Secondly you had your chance to drink tea with Mugabe in Maputo with a host of legal arguments but eventually achieved nothing. Sorry my friend, you shall die clamouring for tea esp. After your serious mistake of not rejoining your former mdc. We are watching and won't forget.

Evidence - 16 July 2013

If he is irrelevant why waste time commenting and calling him names...if he has no support why worry....its his right to stand for what he believes in.....and his freedom of Association.....someone spent the last two years conniving with Bob for his exclusion.....u did not shout obscenities at him it was ok....stay put with tea loving leader.

Mthunzie - 16 July 2013

If he is irrelevant why waste time commenting and calling him names...if he has no support why worry....its his right to stand for what he believes in.....and his freedom of Association.....someone spent the last two years conniving with Bob for his exclusion.....u did not shout obscenities at him it was ok....stay put with tea loving leader.

Mthunzie - 16 July 2013

We are begging Ncu be not because he's big but because we want to avoid the 2008 rerun scenario. It is the violence we are against. Otherwise even if he keeps his vote we can beat the old man anyway. We have proofed it before and we shall do it again.

Jojeti - 16 July 2013

Welshman Ncube and Tsvangirai should realise that the cake called Zim is just too big even for them to share,Imagine something like President Morgan,PM Ncube,Vice President Dabengwa,Deputy PM Makoni,Deputy PM Khuoe,Vice President Biti,Minister of Information and Publicity Chamisa,Finance Minister Mashakada,Minister of Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Coltart,Minister of Industry and Commerce Misihairambwi.Think about the RBZ Governor,Attorney General,Gorvenors of all the Provinces,Vice Chancellors of all State Universities,Service Chiefs,CEOs of parastals,etc

Fox - 16 July 2013

If you had gone kuhondo you would not have returned alive, not that you would have been killed at war front, but at the hands of your fellow magandanga for selling out. It started during the days of the united MDC. You went and gladly got a farm from ZANU PF while you opposed the idea in parliament and on rallies. Welshman, you lie that you are in opposition politics when you are only there to destabilise true opposition parties. You know it that your support is not enough for you to win and form the next government and surprisingly you do not want to join hands with progressive minds to dislodge ZANU PF. If you did not know it, you are aiding ZANU PF more than you are destabilising Tsvangirai.

TANAKA - 16 July 2013

This dreamer shall forever dream of drinking tea at the State Hse. He shall not sip it. Get it from me. After this election all of his Mps shall desert to MT if at all he's going to have one. otherwise One way Morgan. Davila bhora mberi

Mairosi iwe. - 16 July 2013

This dreamer shall forever dream of drinking tea at the State Hse. He shall not sip it. Get it from me. After this election all of his Mps shall desert to MT if at all he's going to have one. otherwise One way Morgan. Davila bhora mberi

Mairosi iwe. - 16 July 2013

Tea boy supporters are living in the fools' days of the past. They are full of hate, tribalism, savage and barbaric stone age behaviour. Analysis prove the following, Tsvangirai and his supporters might not be aware of it because they are so dull. Let me show you the analysis of the strong holds of the three candidates, Ncube, Mugabe and Tsvangirai Ncube- Midlands province. People from Midlands are so happy to have a presidential candidate coming from their province for the first time. Matabeleland North Province, Bulawayo Province, Matabeleland South Province. Total number 4 PROVINCES. Mugabe- Mashonaland Central Province, Mashonaland East Province, Mashonaland West Province. Total number 3 PROVINCES. Tsvangirai- Harare Province. Total number 1 province. Battle grounds- Manicaland Province- Tsvangirai and Mugabe might slightly win this province. Masvingo Province - Mugabe will slightly win this province. If Tsvangirai and his blind supporters think that they drive Zim politics they might as well consider this analysis because they are destined for doom.

chindori chinyika - 16 July 2013

Tea boy supporters are living in the fools' days of the past. They are full of hate, tribalism, savage and barbaric stone age behaviour. Analysis prove the following, Tsvangirai and his supporters might not be aware of it because they are so dull. Let me show you the analysis of the strong holds of the three candidates, Ncube, Mugabe and Tsvangirai. Ncube- Midlands province. People from Midlands are so happy to have a presidential candidate coming from their province for the first time. Matabeleland North Province, Bulawayo Province, Matabeleland South Province. Total number 4 PROVINCES. Mugabe- Mashonaland Central Province, Mashonaland East Province, Mashonaland West Province. Total number 3 PROVINCES. Tsvangirai- Harare Province. Total number 1 province. Battle grounds- Manicaland Province- Tsvangirai and Mugabe might slightly win this province. Masvingo Province - Mugabe will slightly win this province. If Tsvangirai and his blind supporters think that they drive Zim politics they might as well consider this analysis because they are destined for doom.

chindori chinyika - 16 July 2013

tanaka your reasoning is preposterous,u cant force ncube to join tsvangirai just fo the sake of pleasing u,in as much as u hv freedom of choice,so does ncube.Whats your definition of progressive minds,what progress,to where.u hv realized that tsvangirai does not hv enough support to dislodge zanu pf ,hence the desperate attempts to lure ncube whom he once labeled a redundant politician who has no space in the zim political landscape,Tvangirai was never destabilized by anybody,when he was sleeping around ainge atumwa here,even his shut mind policy does not do him any good,so NCUBE ANOPINDA PAPI NAIWE DOFO

shelaz - 16 July 2013

Brilliant interview as usual from Ncube. I think whoever is critisizing this Political Gentleman has not even read the above interview. Green Green Ayithelelwe Ngaidiridzwe! We act while other promise!

tafadzwa - 16 July 2013

oh, amadoda, Ncube has said it himself, he is against removing Mugabe. so he is in the elecions to save Zanu pf.

MPUMELELO NKOMO - 16 July 2013

What an idiot Ncube is, this guy is sleeping with Mugabe, If he has any brains and has Zimbabwe at heart the first thing would to Aline himself Like the others have done, to get Mugabe out then put his plan B in motion, but trust a nig nog to greedy. I rest my case

Zuze - 16 July 2013

Ncube you are a sellout period.We the people of Matabeleland have adequate representation in the mainstream MDC-T.We dont need you as vice president.We have our consistant madam Kupe.We are going to win first round not even rerun.So be informed,you now have a special place in the dustbin of Zimbabwe history

Mlilo - 16 July 2013

ncube akadhakwa angabatanenadabengwa akatitadzisa kutonga ngavagare nedzidzoyavo tinovotera Morgan iyeye

morgan is more - 16 July 2013

@Chindori chinyika. Day dreamer like your Welshman. This election is all about removing a 33yr old dictatorship and not your vain wishes of a separatist state. If you still think the 21 seats for Morgan in Matebeleland from 2008 were a fallace. Brace again for another shock as we shall scoop your remaining 2 seats.

Commando - 16 July 2013

Ncube has the right to be elected. Mugabe has the right to be elected, Ttvangirai has the right to be elected. You have the right o Vote. So, leave Ncube alone

Fair - 16 July 2013

Ncube has the right to be elected. Mugabe has the right to be elected, Ttvangirai has the right to be elected. You have the right o Vote. So, leave Ncube alone

Fair - 16 July 2013

You apes stop insulting our president Ncube, our professor isikhwicamfundo. Your problem is you are jealous and uncivilised. You are used to ZANU politics of hate, and wrong thoughts that who ever does nor support ZANU is a traitor, and you think who evaer does not support Tsvangison is a traitor as if Tsvangison is anything to talk about in Zimbabwe. Why don't you vote your Tsvangison and shut up you are making a lot of noise like puppies imidlwane yenja ma ikhaliswa ngumqando ebusuku.

thula sizwe - 16 July 2013

Ncube you lie too much. Very good at talking shit. In Harare alone I am yet to see campaign poster of one of your candidate including yours. You are damn liar you are trying to give people the impression that you are organised and prepared when you can not even afford to print posters. You are a shame. Yourself and you dabengwa have betrayed us the people of matebeleland. We shall deal with you at polls.

Ntokozo - 16 July 2013

THE MAIN GOAL IS TO GET RID OF little old robert, ncube should reach out to Prime Minister and form a coalition valid until after elections then take things from there that is where the crux of the matter is. Thats a gift u can give ALL zimbabweans right now coz fact is at this moment in time u have no real chance and the only logical thing is to team with mdc t for now.

obama4eva - 16 July 2013

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